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Wisconsin Gas Stations Found to be Shorting Consumers at the Pump

CSP Daily News -- MADISON, Wis. -- Inspectors found a few dozen Wisconsin gasoline stations shortchanging their customers at the pump, as a new proposal could add to the team of people making sure drivers get what they pay for, according to a WISC-TV report. About 50 stations throughout southern and southwestern Wisconsin didn't deliver enough fuel since the start of 2011, mostly because of mechanical errors, inspectors said.

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tomok
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:29:50 PM

Wisconsin Gas Stations Found to be Shorting Consumers at the Pump! Well, shame on them!!! Making the public pay more for a product is no way to operate a business! All state's need to get their Weights and Measures people out to all the state's gas stations and measure how much of a true gallon they are dispensing from their pumps.
Any gas station found with a huge difference from a true gallon needs to be fined heavily or shut down.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
Teslukbla
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CSP Daily News posted the article on 1-30-2013 and then removed the article during early morning hours on 1-31-0213. CSP may have received complaints regarding the controversial subject. The story originated in October by WISC-TV in Madison, Wisconsin.
LetemEatCake
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Bad link, access denied. You must join to see the article...Das is verboten under GB's guidelines!

[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 2/1/2013 11:33:48 PM EST]
virostek
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 6:40:09 AM

OK.
nb52
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 6:29:42 AM

This is what inspectors are paid to do.
NedW
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Thank you for submitting this article, Teslukbla.
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Part 2 - Full Article

About 97.9 percent of pumps in 2011 were within the error rate that’s allowed, state data indicate. Only 0.4 percent shortchange customers.

“They’re not the evil that everybody thinks they are,” Williams said.
Of those that failed tests and had pumps “red-tagged,” or shut down until they’re fixed, a station in Monona was off by 5 cents a gallon. Another pump in Sun Prairie was off by 29 cents a gallon.

Just as many, if not more, stations give customers more fuel that what they paid for. One pump in Beloit was giving drivers an extra 52 cents a gallon.

All of those errors were fixed, managers told WISC-TV.

State and local inspectors check for errors by pumping five gallons into their proving devices, which have a level to indicate the actual amount pumped. Errors are within the allowed range if they’re only a few tablespoons under- or over-delivering.

It’s impossible to check the mechanics of a pump without the expensive devices the inspectors have, but consumers can still look out for two kinds of errors — meter creep and meter jump.

Meter creep happens when cents continue to add up even after the consumer stops the pump, while meter jump takes place when the price calculates before the consumer begins pumping.

“Since I’ve been doing this job, I’ve told my family and my friends to always make sure the pump starts on zero,” Williams said. If it doesn’t, don’t pump and tell the cashier immediately, he said.

No matter whether the station is in a populated area or a rural one, inspectors respond to consumer complaints within two weeks, Williams said.

To report a complaint, call the state hotline, 1-800-422-7128.

Tomeboy
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Part 1 - Full Article

NOTE: The following story first appeared on WISC-TV and online on Oct. 29, 2012.

MADISON, Wis. — Inspectors found a few dozen local gas stations shortchanging their customers at the pump, as a new proposal could add to the team of people making sure drivers get what they pay for, a WISC-TV investigation revealed.

About 50 stations throughout southern and southwestern Wisconsin didn’t deliver enough fuel since the start of 2011, mostly because of mechanical errors, inspectors said.

“You never know what you’re going to get, which is why we’re out here doing this,” said Jared Williams, a state inspector who covers all of Dane and Iowa counties, except Madison.

No stations were shorting customers in Madison, records indicate. The city, like other metropolitan areas in Wisconsin, has its own inspectors who are able to check every pump yearly.

“I take it really seriously because I’m a consumer too, and I have to fill up my tank,” said Cindy Lease, one of three city inspectors. “The cost of fuel has gone up so much, I think people are more aware of making sure everything’s right.”

The state Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection has just 14 inspectors that perform quantity checks in outstate areas, including all of Madison’s suburbs, Janesville and Beloit. Stations in cities with more than 5,000 people get tested every year, but not so in rural areas.

“I try to get out to as many pumps as I can in a year’s time,” Williams said.

Department officials have asked Gov. Scott Walker to triple the number of inspectors in his biennial budget. A separate agency does quality tests, meaning many stations get two inspections per year.

That’s inefficient, and training all of them to perform one complete test would allow them to check more stations every year, department leaders said.

bston
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 11:23:09 PM

Hard to know just who you can trust nowadays.
DanMtz
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:45:18 PM

Not surprising.
RodOrRob
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:42:38 PM

http://www.cspnet.com/news/fuels/articles/wisconsin-gas-stations-found-be-shorting-consumers-pump

bad link?...access denied.

watch this link (thanks BossPal) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wChNY-b3ofo

Reminds me of a story I saw years ago where the inspectors test using the FIVE gallon containers...but found pumps only were correct at dispensing in those 5 gallon increments. In between, the pump would cheat the consumer. I wonder how many of those pumps are still out there?
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 3:05:06 PM


I'm certain this is much more common they we know.
PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:47:49 PM

Fine the hell out of those gas stations. Then check them monthly.
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:32:27 PM

Fraud is everywhere...buyer beware!
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:32:14 PM

Busted
hdeecee
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:29:54 PM

50 stations didn't deliver enough fuel since the start of 2011? UNBELIEVABLE
mageetp
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:22:42 PM

Not able to open post.
fullauto
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:22:12 PM

cheats? human nature has not changed from biblical times and stories.
Cuzilla
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:22:02 PM

They should only short Liberals and Greenies!
SavALot
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:20:58 PM

just another form of gas station malpractice
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:19:44 PM

con and sin in the statNW bane
us412
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:19:34 PM

Hey man, can't we all just get along?
Hey man, not if you are cheating me.
DeeLA
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:19:10 PM

Recession cut-backs are everywhere, including inspectors in many fields.
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:16:56 PM

I'll bet it happens in all states to one extent or another.
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:15:37 PM

and where were the inspectors
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Buyer Beware!! Greed has taken over the Market Place!!
firechief
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:13:43 PM

no suprise
DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:13:18 PM

The inspectors need to be doing more inspecting.
Holly123
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:12:02 PM

We are being ripped off already and that's ridiculous!
monarch57
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:11:51 PM

Were being gouged enough now.
GasSpy007
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:06:04 PM

Shut em down.. Enough of ripping us off already..
Rick52
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CatMan623...You are and Idiot...Union !!
GGAlbo
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:03:18 PM

not good!!!
luvmyburgi
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:02:57 PM

fine them to the max
GGAlbo
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:02:28 PM

Sounds like Clark gas stations!
fenster66
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:01:29 PM

need to be on the lookout at all times....
chillyman3
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:01:22 PM

Where else is this happening?
Rick52
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We the Consumer are getting Ripped Off every where..This is plain BS ..
ScottTee
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ya have to watch for fraud.
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 1:58:10 PM

sounds like it went the full year between weights & measurements inspections, if a pump has a minor breakdown or is manipulated just after the new yearly sticker is put on it, they owners get a year of those extra pennies....
PangON
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 1:56:21 PM

Just not right.
TC_Fuel_Prices
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I'm watching you.

Oh yeah, well I'm watching you, watching him.
CatMan623
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 1:55:18 PM

Must be union gas stations. Institutionalized stealing is right up their alley.
milespergallon
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Tried to go to 'read the full article' and received message 'denied access'
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bad-bad
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am I surprised?
Bud122CA
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 1:53:01 PM

"Mechanical errors"??? Call it what you want, the stations had to know and that is stealing.
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Don't go to the full article it is a virus infected page!!! My Norton 360 blocked it.
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Am I surprised?
BossPal
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Pennies add up to dollars multiplied by volume over time oh my.

video: WISC-TV "50 local gas stations found shorting customers"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wChNY-b3ofo
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oh dear
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