Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    7:45 AM

GasBuddy News Article

40
votes
Wind farms 'not major bird mincers'

BBC News -- Many bird species are unaffected by wind farms, concludes a study carried out by UK bird charities.

Scientists with the British Trust for Ornithology (BTO) and RSPB found that building the turbines was more disruptive than operating them.

Impacts varied between species, with red grouse numbers recovering after construction, curlews declining and not recovering, and skylarks increasing.

Their findings are published in the Journal of Applied Ecology.

This is the latest in a long line of studies on wind farms' interactions with birds, but differs from most in its scale.

Ten species of birds were included, and 18 wind farms in upland areas of the UK were studied - most were monitored before construction began, during construction, and again afterwards.


Read the Full Article

Submitted Apr 12, 2012 By: PhilMils
Category: Daily News Article Discussions > Topics Add to favorite topics  
Author Topic: Wind farms 'not major bird mincers' Back to Topics
REPLIES (newest first) Post a Reply
Profile Pic
Martinman
Champion Author Mississippi

Posts:16,999
Points:2,574,015
Joined:Sep 2005
Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 10:33:15 AM

feldos from Florida posted...

"Other studies conclude the opposite"

-----

That is due to the region in which this study was conducted. Most of the concerns indentified by studies in the U.S., involve bird-mortality for migratory species and soaring species (primarily birds of prey).
Profile Pic
jeffbone
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:2,721
Points:698,055
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 8:21:57 AM

what dbecks44 said...let the market decide...
Profile Pic
feldos
Champion Author Florida

Posts:2,640
Points:745,550
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:04:55 AM

Other studies conclude the opposite
Profile Pic
Nicoalbum
Champion Author Ottawa

Posts:8,586
Points:1,676,035
Joined:Jan 2010
Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 12:21:53 AM

It is a kind of disaster for wildlife. But who really cares now?
Profile Pic
davenles
Champion Author Texas

Posts:5,453
Points:1,205,885
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 11:34:07 PM

Surprised a large grant wasn't issued to study this situation. Sounds like just the thing the government likes to spend money on.
Profile Pic
aquarinut
Champion Author British Columbia

Posts:1,633
Points:497,105
Joined:Jul 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:48:06 PM

Hmmm... study shows wind farms are not a "major bird mincer".

How about a study on ground animals, insects, invertebrates and organic plants effected after construction by the constant noise, vibration and shadows created by these monsters??
Profile Pic
07skydriver
Champion Author Ohio

Posts:5,267
Points:1,457,850
Joined:Feb 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:10:07 PM

Could be a good source of food when the (bird) $hlt hits the fan.
Profile Pic
PDQBlues
Champion Author San Diego

Posts:9,343
Points:1,933,750
Joined:Jan 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:52:50 PM

Very true, MidNJ, as long as these wind farmers are away from bird-sensitive areas. There is no such thing as a risk-free energy production. All our energy sources will have some risks involved; just make the risks minimal and tolerable.
Profile Pic
dbecks44
Champion Author Michigan

Posts:3,452
Points:910,475
Joined:Jan 2012
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:42:49 PM

To me, the problem isn't the bird mincing. It's the fact that the government won't simply let them operate on their own merits in the free market. Too many incentives.
Profile Pic
MidNJ
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:9,331
Points:1,604,015
Joined:Sep 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:01:33 PM

Seems that when I am driving 65 MPH down the highway the birds always veer off and quickly fly off in another direction.

Yes, some may get caught in a wind turbine, but there is a thing called survival of the fittest. Most birds will quickly learn how to avoid the blades.
Profile Pic
eric2theem
Sophomore Author Riverside

Posts:105
Points:30,980
Joined:Mar 2012
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:52:30 PM

its too bad they charge so much for wind energy in California but if it was available i would probably use it. As for the bird issue i don't think its a big deal if a few of those birds are picked off i mean the uk has been ruining there environment for decades with textile production and fall out.
Profile Pic
coughlin
Champion Author San Jose

Posts:6,662
Points:1,447,410
Joined:Sep 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:50:34 PM

Well, THAT ought to settle that.
Profile Pic
DerHahn
Champion Author Illinois

Posts:16,430
Points:2,589,205
Joined:May 2004
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:36:25 PM

got one down the road from here and never saw any issues with all the ducks and geese that are at the park. never heard any noise from it either.
Profile Pic
djwhit
Champion Author Ohio

Posts:5,070
Points:1,683,980
Joined:Jul 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 5:53:58 PM

GET IT DONE.......
Profile Pic
Joeski1
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:13,004
Points:2,231,410
Joined:Dec 2004
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 5:25:07 PM

who ever actually believed that 'fossil fooler' spin control anyway??

no slag, no radiation, no spills, no leaks, no CO2, no waste by products, no mountaintop removal....

the fossil foolers are scared to hell that more of these farms get built...

the dinosaurs can tell their end is fast approaching...
Profile Pic
teafortwo
Champion Author Washington

Posts:26,401
Points:1,868,585
Joined:Feb 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:52:14 PM


It appears the British Trust for Ornithology (BTO) and RSPB did not receive their funding from BIG GREED OIL & GAS.

All studies funded by the BIG GREED show any alternative energy sources to be horrible!

BIG GREED OIL & GAS want to be sure we all know that only BIG GREED OIL & GAS truly love us :0|
Profile Pic
TruthMatters
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:3,616
Points:967,835
Joined:Oct 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:51:20 PM

Another myth debunked!
Profile Pic
Vetteblu
Champion Author Denver

Posts:4,674
Points:1,229,075
Joined:Oct 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:42:59 PM

Tree huggers again.
Profile Pic
uglytom
Champion Author Florida

Posts:7,464
Points:1,542,015
Joined:Jul 2007
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:34:56 PM

Who suggested they would?
Profile Pic
justme888CA
Sophomore Author California

Posts:210
Points:149,690
Joined:Sep 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:16:11 PM

I would be more concerned about keeping the birds away from airplanes

[Edited by: justme888CA at 4/12/2012 4:16:48 PM EST]
Profile Pic
tnfran
Champion Author Arizona

Posts:6,618
Points:1,316,380
Joined:Dec 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:11:35 PM

No matter what is done it seems there is no pleasing the environMENTAL whako's.
Profile Pic
drpepperTX
Champion Author Texas

Posts:12,901
Points:1,238,250
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:01:56 PM

Ten species included in study out hundreds of species? No raptor studies??

Hmmm...
Bird Deaths By Turbine
Profile Pic
qwerty17
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:5,511
Points:1,579,990
Joined:Oct 2009
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:00:37 PM

c'mon. random bird deaths are a major issue?
Profile Pic
ObieDog
Champion Author Maryland

Posts:3,978
Points:1,327,730
Joined:Sep 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:59:23 PM

Oy !!
Profile Pic
Gnusman53
Champion Author San Diego

Posts:10,335
Points:1,589,265
Joined:Feb 2004
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:52:56 PM

An infusion of facts is always good....... and something the GOP rails against all the time... they hate facts...,.. and would rather deal in fantasy...
Profile Pic
Gnusman53
Champion Author San Diego

Posts:10,335
Points:1,589,265
Joined:Feb 2004
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:51:30 PM

And Van Halen..... that is because of what????? (grin)... the GOP trying to kill it for decades...
Profile Pic
Jeff1944
Champion Author South Dakota

Posts:4,841
Points:1,475,390
Joined:Jan 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:50:14 PM

So do you suppose this report will be accepted by the greenies?
Profile Pic
Charley_7
Veteran Author New York

Posts:293
Points:228,305
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:48:33 PM

And the study did not cover raptors, which are most likely to to affected.
Profile Pic
humblepie
Champion Author Toledo

Posts:54,351
Points:2,862,065
Joined:Mar 2006
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:37:50 PM

this will go on and on, ad nauseum.
Profile Pic
Van_Halen
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:3,038
Points:1,026,230
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:25:28 PM

.
They are also NOT major produces of reliable electricity!

Profile Pic
me2002
All-Star Author Toledo

Posts:763
Points:325,455
Joined:Dec 2011
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:22:37 PM

You mean they can avoid the tower and 50 ft long blade by flying around it and not die. Amazing.
Profile Pic
dunedate
Champion Author California

Posts:1,433
Points:175,540
Joined:Jan 2010
Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:02:59 PM

There is a reason some thing is called bird brain
Post a reply Back to Topics