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UPDATE 1-Shell to pay $19.5 mln for California violations

Reuters -- California AG investigated 1,000 Shell gasoline stations

* Shell failed to maintain gasoline tanks properly -AG

* Shell admits no liability, pleased to reach settlement

OAKLAND, Calif., Nov 6 (Reuters) - California was awarded $19.5 million in a settlement against Royal Dutch Shell Plc's (RDSa.L) U.S. unit for not storing fuel properly at filling stations in the state, Attorney General Jerry Brown said on Friday.

"Shell Oil company disregarded the state's underground fuel storage and hazardous waste laws, committing hundreds of environmental violations at its gasoline stations across California," Brown said in a statement.

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Submitted Nov 07, 2009 By: liltruckman

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RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,828 Points:896,020 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 11:15:46 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse Hopefully Shell has cleaned up their act.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:5,095 Points:1,092,050 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 7:16:25 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Shell should pay more than the $19,500,000 fine. They should pay additional penalties.
jeromehasbargen Champion Author Minnesota Posts:3,204 Points:627,745 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 5:44:24 PM Ignore jeromehasbargen Report Abuse It is good that they should pay for their errors.
BEngr Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,273 Points:1,117,455 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:25:46 PM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse I wonder why it took the State of California so long before they took legal action? Now the question is when will they get the money?
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:6,771 Points:2,166,615 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:11:18 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse and we will pay that fine in price hike
craveninnj Sophomore Author New Jersey Posts:110 Points:22,700 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:58:32 PM Ignore craveninnj Report Abuse and the gas prices soar... exxon's will likely follow suit as well
DFleming All-Star Author Alberta Posts:500 Points:105,445 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:58:28 PM Ignore DFleming Report Abuse That's a drop in the bucket compared to fixing the problem
ramboTX Champion Author Dallas Posts:7,535 Points:1,341,810 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:57:06 PM Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse Sure, Exxon still hasn't paid there millions in fines for the Exxon Valdez.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:13,860 Points:2,724,740 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:55:36 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse That should be worth a quarter at the pump!
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:6,408 Points:1,314,165 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:52:06 PM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse When a company gets a government fine, they pass that fine on to the customers by raising their prices. Subsequently, all others in that field will see a reason to also raise their prices, thereby scoring a bigger profit for no reason at all.
gasforus Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,784 Points:1,728,590 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:51:25 PM Ignore gasforus Report Abuse No contest, eh Shell???
garman87 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,359 Points:1,944,065 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:50:10 PM Ignore garman87 Report Abuse Finally good news for California.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:8,801 Points:2,005,055 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:47:51 PM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse We let foreign companies dictate the way we live.
threewheeler Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,377 Points:318,330 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:45:37 PM Ignore threewheeler Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon
janctx Champion Author Lubbock Posts:2,715 Points:882,880 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:43:13 PM Ignore janctx Report Abuse bad for Shell good for Cali
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,873 Points:1,279,655 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:38:26 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse Hefty fine, but not enough to balance the budget.
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,450 Points:1,102,475 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:37:16 PM Ignore CISA Report Abuse Appears as thought this is a legitimate resolution. Usually, Brown has an agenda he's promoting.
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:7,185 Points:1,029,295 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:36:30 PM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse My guess would be that it would be easy to violate hundreds of environmental regulations in California.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,745 Points:2,059,440 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:32:51 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse A drop in the bucket compared to last years profits from gouging.
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,150 Points:1,199,210 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:29:59 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Wonder if Shell will pay or choose not to like Exxon hasn't paid on the Valdez yet. OF COURSE Shell won't admit any liability; the oil companies hardly ever do, nor the big corporations in-general.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:6,120 Points:1,125,425 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:26:11 PM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse They will raise fuel prices to pay for this.
DellDude2 Champion Author Nashville Posts:6,783 Points:1,656,835 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:21:07 PM Ignore DellDude2 Report Abuse Wonder if someone sicked Erin Brockovich on them?
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,631 Points:1,498,750 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:20:09 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse Dirty bums!
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,255 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:13:52 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse ARCO was hit with a similar fine a few years ago. Did their prices go up? They are still the cheapest stations in California. When a hospital is fined for doing things wrong do their rates go up. I guess you wouldn't want them to be fined.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:8,583 Points:1,700,640 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:07:24 PM Ignore lpj Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon !!!
lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:6,492 Points:1,271,485 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:06:11 PM Ignore lindact Report Abuse This is pocket change to them.
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:6,313 Points:1,334,810 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:58:09 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Even though it is just we will pay for it at the pumps
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,769 Points:1,660,685 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:52:19 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse They got off to easy.
dhnbBUG Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,625 Points:1,097,110 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:51:25 PM Ignore dhnbBUG Report Abuse Yet another good reason to shift away from oil.
dopster Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,789 Points:1,826,625 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:50:00 PM Ignore dopster Report Abuse So you think it's OK to leak gasoline into ground water???
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:6,048 Points:1,915,520 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:44:16 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Here goes the price up again in order to recover the costs their own negligence caused.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:4,716 Points:982,400 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:44:04 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse It may not get California out of her mess, but it'll help. ;-)
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,659 Points:1,270,380 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:40:43 PM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse Won't get CA of of it's mess.
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:5,826 Points:1,156,685 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:38:50 PM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse 19.5 mill.....a drop in the oil bucket.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,643 Points:1,969,435 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:33:34 PM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse I have no response to this.
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:14,890 Points:1,231,250 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:30:27 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse The article stated: "Apart from paying $19.5 million in penalties to government agencies and legal costs, Shell must take a series of steps to improve spill and alarm monitoring and hazardous waste management at its stations, according to the judgment signed in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland." It would appear that it is a fair settlement, providing that Shell makes the corrections ordered. I suspect that the EPA may get involved later if it is found that damage was done to the environment.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,990 Points:1,487,715 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:28:45 PM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse agree with fx rider94
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:6,841 Points:1,496,065 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:28:01 PM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse What does Shell care?
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:4,978 Points:1,071,705 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:27:27 PM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse at 19.5 million they are getting by CHEAP why cloud the picture by admitting liabilty - smart move on Shell's part. The fine should have been 195 million (California needs the cash)
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,145 Points:1,219,200 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:26:47 PM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Costly mistake, yes we will all pay in the end.
FXRider94 Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:307 Points:826,950 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:21:15 PM Ignore FXRider94 Report Abuse This is just a drop in the bucket, for Shell. They'll make it up, by raising prices a few cents.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,503 Points:1,481,340 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:17:48 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Good job reuters. I only wonder just exactly how much is $19.5 'min'!! I think their reporting is about as good as their editorial capabilities! And, Shell has gotten away very very cheap. Who is in their pocket?
Paw5X Champion Author Gary Posts:7,754 Points:1,880,120 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:15:22 PM Ignore Paw5X Report Abuse They will just raise their prices to recoup their loses!
civicdutie Champion Author Rochester Posts:3,010 Points:611,275 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:12:47 PM Ignore civicdutie Report Abuse Thats not enough. They should of forced them to sell their gasoline to the public at no profit for a year (no profit for Shell, not the individual stations)
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:10,805 Points:1,251,495 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:12:02 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse so if their answer govermint run gas stations; few and far between, with super cleanliness and costs passed on to both fueling motorists and the tax payers?
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:2,192 Points:435,515 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:11:12 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse they need to pay more than that for it
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:2,192 Points:435,515 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:10:45 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse this wont really be much of a dent for them
TECH500 Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,141 Points:654,655 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:10:31 PM Ignore TECH500 Report Abuse Thats like a slap on the wrist for Shell.
LuckyD43 Champion Author Long Island Posts:18,799 Points:1,733,260 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:07:06 PM Ignore LuckyD43 Report Abuse A $19.5 mln fine does not worry Shell in the slightest. They know they can very easily pass it down to the consumer for any excuse whatsoever.
Sam195 Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:5,760 Points:1,115,975 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:05:51 PM Ignore Sam195 Report Abuse Good old Jerry Brown, the hack man.