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Two Advances Point Toward a Cheaper Electric-Car Battery

MIT technology review -- For the roads to start filling up with electric cars, batteries will need to get much cheaper—as much as 80 percent cheaper by some estimates (see “How Improved Batteries Will Make Electric Vehicles Competitive”). Two recent advances that make an experimental type of battery much more practical could lead to such cost savings.

Researchers have for years been working on a type of battery that uses lithium metal in one electrode and sulfur in the other. In theory, this kind of battery could store three to five times as much energy as a conventional lithium-ion battery (see “Revisiting Lithium-Sulfur Batteries”). But lithium metal is highly reactive when exposed to water and can form root-like structures inside batteries over time; these structures can join positive and negative electrodes,


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remay
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 8:22:11 AM

cheaper? also needs to be longer lasting per charge and for the llife of the car...
skb69sa
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:02:20 PM

I am not for EV
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:01:39 PM


Every advancement is a step further to energy alternatives. I'm still convinced that eventually EV will need technology that does away with the battery altogether.
E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:17:06 PM

leeac enthuses:

"EV technology continues to advance and EVs are here to stay."

Well, the technology will improve over time, but the gains discussed here are just announcements in research papers. These may or may not work out; other technologies may be better.

The better technology includes more efficient ICE's as well as improved hybrid designs. Not to mention natural gas....which is already a mature technology.
Night Owl
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:37:26 PM

Let's hope this research makes it into the real world. Current electric-car battery technology is too primitive and too costly.
RonElp
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 11:10:52 AM

I would think lithium ion would get cheeper as more of them are produced. Like the HDTV... They used to be 1900.00 and now a 54" is 495.00 at WalMart. CD Players started out at about $1200.00 now $29.99.
Norm10
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:48:37 AM

So what?
OldMan322
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:35:04 AM

"leeac" Maybe, but don't count on it
Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:40:59 AM

No EVs around here
TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 8:02:44 AM

Brains over brawn. Thank you, nerds. You rule!
2008JeepX
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 7:48:39 AM

And sure the technology will get better and the need for Oil will lessen,,, but our power rates??? We need produce more electrical power by solar and wind!!
bar1035
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 7:27:32 AM

"The energy storage numbers should also be taken with a grain of salt—they’re estimates derived from lab-scale experiments, not measurements of large, commercial-scale batteries."

And cheaper does not mean it's cheap
335d1
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 6:10:32 AM

Interesting technology.
leeac
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 6:08:11 AM

EV technology continues to advance and EVs are here to stay. This is great.
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 4:50:28 AM

A lot of work and research to be done - nothing for the near future here
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 4:46:23 AM

Oh great. They cannot get a battery to work so now the want to make sure that we have the potential bomb. Actually this is nothing new. Some Pilots of Cargo Aircraft refuse to load lithium components due to their explosive nature. Just think what this could be like in an auto accident when it is raining or snowing and you EV battery cracks open.
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 4:00:27 AM

Make batteries not bombs.
fuel2use
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 3:53:44 AM

Research improves.
heydano67
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:51:11 AM

keep on working on it
kd5kpd
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:28:44 AM

EV's are just not the answer at this time, possibly in 20-30 years they might will develope a good & reliable battery but its just not practicle this time.
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:28:09 AM

Don't believe it.
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:27:36 AM

How long before deployment? Get fuel cells into vehicles.
ekcbp
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:26:23 AM

I'll believe it when I see it. Perhaps when gas reaches the $6 level promised by Obama.
Retowered
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:23:26 AM

That would be good for people Electric-Car. but I will stay with my gas car.
comprof
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:21:37 AM

Hype?
nurdco
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:18:54 AM

Invention requires recovery initially for start of production

Doubtful $$$ reduction
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:18:30 AM

For the time being it will be cheaper.... just wait
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:13:54 AM

Keep improving!
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:04:06 AM

sounds good
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:01:25 AM

Cost is not the issue. Safety, distance, and not having a fire in your garage are. Forget it!
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:59:03 AM

Good!!!
TBONE3
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:54:39 AM

I should expect the sales price will drop once the product proves itself and sale dramatically increase. Natural way of doing business!
Matt G
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:52:40 AM

Sounds good
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:51:33 AM

good news
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:49:57 AM

Sounds promising
wally52
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:49:40 AM

I'll pass on the EVs
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:42:48 AM

sounds good
kiss4afrog
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:42:38 AM

It's still a new technology and has a way to go but think how far ahead we would be if half the vehicles out there were electric ?? We wouldn't even know (or care) if OPEC existed.
pepinoNC
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:40:41 AM

Nice
mrbee
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:38:28 AM

Still do not want one.
Ahking
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:33:16 AM

all these discoveries will add up.
Bruno44
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:32:56 AM

How many Thousands of dollars cheaper?
pacecar68
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:31:55 AM

ok.
BobD2009
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:30:36 AM

Nothing be EV hype.
fuelott
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:28:07 AM

on dec 18 1898 a french race car driver broke the land speed record of just over 60 km/hr in an electric run vehicle. ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE NOT NEW PEOPLE. eventually it's time will come.
Thomtec
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:28:01 AM

Where is it
vulcan96
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:27:45 AM

less talk and posts, - more action...
gasguzler4667
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:27:36 AM

Lets see how many can afford the electric car.Good luck with that ideal.
crmedic
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:26:22 AM

Hopefully they will get there. I still think CNG will be a better deal for the next 50 years.
sprocketsplines
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:25:28 AM

In order for EVs to overtake the fossil-fueled vehicles, the EV battery range, cost, and recharging need to be addressed as being done by research described in the MIT technology review article.
danol43
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 1:22:48 AM

Keep going. They may make it affordable and practical in time.
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