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Tesla Motors’ Devastating Design Problem

theunderstatement.com -- Tesla Motors' lineup of all-electric vehicles — its existing Roadster, almost certainly its impending Model S, and possibly its future Model X — apparently suffer from a severe limitation that can largely destroy the value of the vehicle. If the battery is ever totally discharged, the owner is left with what Tesla describes as a "brick": a completely immobile vehicle that cannot be started or even pushed down the street. The only known remedy is for the owner to pay Tesla approximately $40,000 to replace the entire battery. Unlike practically every other modern car problem, neither Tesla's warranty nor typical car insurance policies provide any protection from this major financial loss. Here's how it happens.



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Submitted Feb 27, 2012 By: ultm8opie
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chemist74
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 8:22:32 AM

If true, this sounds like a critical design flaw that would make their cars a disaster if they were ever sold in volume.
NGC4565
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 6:09:43 AM

The Tesla is meant to be a status symbol for the wealthy anyway. These little inconveniences do no diminish it's value when you look at it that way.
Mark8601
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 3:48:29 AM

MONIEET! 2500 Roadsters have already been built sweety! They sell for about $107K, so a little $40K battery replacement is small change. Tesla is worth 3.5 Billion. KEEP THE STOCK!
monieet
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 2:17:19 AM

They will go under before the first car rolls off the assembly line. DUMP THE STOCK!
nurdco
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 12:55:14 AM

Typical battery death problem from Lack of Recharging...
NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 11:55:28 PM


Talk about a ton of misinformation arising from a blogger. Short out your own AA cell rechargeable battery at home and see what happens. The perceived or overplayed "problem" is easily engineered out by some simple and automatic control circuits to limit any dangerous drain on the battery packs when the car is unused for any length of time. EE201.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 11:21:27 PM

Talk about a brand killer. Who except a rich hippy would by a $100,000 car that has a disputed 200 mile range, that will take $40,000 to fix if you forget to plug it in while on vacation, have an extended power failure, a bad extension cord or God forbid a personal emergency that prevents you from hooking up your car. Just imagine having a medical emergency while at work. You go to the hospital for two or three weeks rack thousands of dollars in bill only to find that your expensive toy is now another $40,000 expense that can’t even be towed to the shop.

The best part is this is what hundreds of millions of your tax dollars are producing and calling it progress. This will be the next Solendra.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 2/27/2012 11:22:19 PM EST]
Tucker16
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 10:25:21 PM

I doubt $40k will be much to the kind of people who buy Teslas.
bullman68
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 10:07:30 PM

Should be an easy safeguard to put in place.
Masonbulldog
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 10:03:28 PM

Obama/Chu mucked up again and didn't do their homework before borrowing millions more to give subsidies.
alterman156
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 9:38:22 PM

Tesla should make sure that their cars do not become a "brick" should the battery become totally depleted.
ObieDog
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 9:23:15 PM

Now I'm not going to buy one.
rbrk02
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 9:19:29 PM

And there continues to be those who push these things on the rest of us??? I'll pass on anything electric, thank you.
CVA19
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 9:00:32 PM

Sounds like Tesla should get together with Envia Systems. Then they will have smaller, useless bricks.
Tacodan
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 6:18:31 PM

bricks belong in a pile !
clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 4:47:54 PM

That's a huge problem and if its not fixed bye bye Tesla.
hornet17
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 4:12:10 PM

That's pretty serious. Why would anyone buy one of these if this issue isn't fixed right away.
gizbo123
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:53:22 PM

the gov, aka tax payer.
doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:36:44 PM

oops... do not worry, the government will step in and make it right for the poor owner.
Night Owl
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:30:51 PM

Horrible design! Electric vehicle batteries are really expensive and protection should have been designed in by Tesla Motors.
SilverDodge2000
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:20:54 PM

$40,000 battery replacement. They didn't design in a battery disconnect on low voltage feature?
They must only come in lemon yellow.
dh0770
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:06:29 PM

Wow - Tesla better ask for a bailout!
RochBear
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:03:07 PM

Sheesh, when was the last time any of you ran out of gas? When it gets low on "fuel" fill it up. IT's the same with an EV. The only difference is every house has a "filling station" It's called a plug in.

But I am surprized that Tesla does not make a software change that shuts the car down when the batteries get down to 1%. So it does not kill the batteries. Seems like a simple thing to do.
df99
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:51:35 PM

And we thought range anxiety was the issue!
nfldude
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:31:45 PM

Makes no sense. How could it cost $40 grand? Sounds like someone just making up a number. Will Tesla sell you a McDonald's McDouble sandwich (from the dollar menu) for $10?
gasokie
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:29:47 PM

Gee. Not a good time to own stock in Tesla Motors. Soon be just another footnote in automotive history.
OaklandInvaders
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:26:09 PM

time ot gfet it fixed and make it work
Tigercat88
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:23:08 PM

EV's are the future boat anchors.
kag2010
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:12:17 PM

SO..........
Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:10:59 PM

That's a little hefty, ya think.
tnfran
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 1:09:23 PM

SO.......... still another reason NOT to have one of these Very Expensive electric cars even given the 'small number of times this has happened so far'.
sandy29IL
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:52:56 PM

this is why i'm still skeptical
ramammoth
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:51:22 PM

They'll fix it and move on.
md11capt
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:49:22 PM

And an expensive brick at that.
buckets42
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:43:02 PM

Just plain stupid - goodbye Tesla.
The_DR
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:42:38 PM

huh?
TRYWI
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 12:38:21 PM

Ok
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