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States Ask Detroit: 'Build Us A Natural Gas Car, Please'

WYPR News -- More than 20 state governors are taking an unusual step to boost the natural gas vehicle industry. Independent of the federal government, they're asking Detroit carmakers to build them a new kind of car: a midsize sedan that runs on compressed natural gas instead of gasoline.

The governors are hoping to boost demand for natural gas cars with their collective buying power. Combined, the states say they could ultimately buy thousands of CNG vehicles to replace their current vehicle fleets — if those cars were available.

Only a few kinds of vehicles currently run on compressed natural gas in the U.S., and only one, the CNG Honda Civic, is a passenger car. Detroit currently offers no natural gas-fueled passenger cars.

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Submitted Aug 04, 2012 By: leemun

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stopforgas All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:996 Points:480,955 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 11:48:18 PM Ignore stopforgas Report Abuse Please do!
sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,557 Points:1,919,005 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 9:09:42 AM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse ok
gravityhurts Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,088 Points:936,530 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 6:51:41 AM Ignore gravityhurts Report Abuse What's taking so long. You a purchase all the stuff to convert a gasoline engine to run on CNG so why won't they just build them at the factory.
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,078 Points:796,275 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:34:32 AM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Yeah, but no taxpayer money.
Point__man Champion Author Raleigh Posts:4,330 Points:876,720 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:22:35 AM Ignore Point__man Report Abuse who do they propose foots the bill for the power stations for the electric cars they wanted ; if they scrap that project and move on to natural gas products. After answering that one, whose gona pay for the new natural gas distribution system. Whoops, I forgot; eventually all we have to do is run water from our faucets to get natural gas in our homes. Guess we just need to know how to get it from the faucet to the tank in our cars ;)
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,985 Points:2,526,335 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:20:31 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse ok
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,699,625 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:20:04 AM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse We need the infrastructure to support it.
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,891 Points:771,295 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:19:15 AM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse How about a NG Jet Ski?
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,891 Points:771,295 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:18:57 AM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse Would be good...
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,481 Points:2,102,015 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:18:15 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Good idea but, not new.
CdnLynx Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,021 Points:523,150 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:13:38 AM Ignore CdnLynx Report Abuse Increase the need for N. Gas, then the price will corresponding increase. Gasoline does not fuel the furnaces of N. America; Natural gas in probably the major residential heating fuel; probably rightfully so; right where it is needed. Natural gas, probably the same outcome as propane; power resulting from these gases are not as powerful as gasoline and not as effective in colder climates. Careful in what you wish for, as it may not be the panacea for the ultimate fuel. It states, 20 state governors; curious if they are all from the southern states. [Edited by: CdnLynx at 8/5/2012 12:15:10 AM EST]
shores4now Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,406 Points:523,800 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:13:28 AM Ignore shores4now Report Abuse about time
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:13:08 AM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse CNG has possibilities
MacDad614 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,030 Points:1,175,895 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:13:06 AM Ignore MacDad614 Report Abuse Get the infrastructure in place or the consumer will not be interested.
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,629 Points:1,702,160 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:12:45 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse This would only be good for fleet vehicles that stay within a particular area and can fill up in their pool area. There still isn't a viable infrastructure to support these vehicles as yet.
txkrb Champion Author Texas Posts:1,560 Points:638,405 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:10:58 AM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse To probedude2: lego is probably one of those enlightened people (champion authors) who post yeah, right, ok, really or fascinating
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:555,480 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:09:13 AM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Really, are they going to listen, for real.
bluetatanka Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:55,901 Points:780,855 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:06:52 AM Ignore bluetatanka Report Abuse Need more CNG stations to be made available to the public.
Jeannemarie Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:27,700 Points:2,035,640 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:05:30 AM Ignore Jeannemarie Report Abuse We have CNG stations here in Las Vegas as we have a number of delivery vehicles using that as well as some private cars.
probedude2 Champion Author Akron Posts:12,553 Points:2,380,205 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:05:20 AM Ignore probedude2 Report Abuse Is that all Lego ever says?
LegoVasavouchi Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:1,659 Points:114,390 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 12:00:54 AM Ignore LegoVasavouchi Report Abuse Fascinating.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,699,625 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:55:35 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse We still need the infrastructure to support the cars.
DancingDee Champion Author Gary Posts:4,380 Points:1,055,685 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:55:17 PM Ignore DancingDee Report Abuse I definitely agree with Comprof!!!!
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,305 Points:1,637,945 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:54:46 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse TIME WILL TELL!
12766 Champion Author New York Posts:2,443 Points:1,483,315 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:53:54 PM Ignore 12766 Report Abuse OK
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,919,030 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:50:12 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Early efforts to market CNG cars to U.S. consumers flopped, so natural gas producers have a lot to gain if the effort to jump-start the industry drives up demand for the gas." I can't believe the above statement! When did they try to market CNG cars? Only the Honda Civic and I can't travel 27 miles to the dealer to get gas. I heard the Dodge Ram has a truck on CNG came out in July but have never seen one yet in my area, and where is the fill up stations?
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,782 Points:643,835 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:47:53 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse The more demand for CNG using vehicles the higher CNG prices will be - soon approaching the level of gasoline.
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,335 Points:895,085 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:44:08 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse I'm sure if everyone started using natural gas vehicles, its price would go up just like gasoline has.
isem Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,921 Points:422,210 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:42:25 PM Ignore isem Report Abuse ok
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,854 Points:1,355,775 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:41:53 PM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Souds good to me but I would rather see a program to cheaply convert existing vehicles to natural gas.
Gascapade Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,017 Points:481,705 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:41:42 PM Ignore Gascapade Report Abuse Hell yeah!!
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singlemom27 Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,108 Points:639,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:37:11 PM Ignore singlemom27 Report Abuse sounds like a good idea
beachmanglen All-Star Author Tampa Posts:674 Points:495,275 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:36:51 PM Ignore beachmanglen Report Abuse Great idea - Boone Pickens is right.
greenfog Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,485 Points:1,638,045 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:36:51 PM Ignore greenfog Report Abuse Build the infrastructure first then the cars will come.
no8c Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,804 Points:704,100 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:33:44 PM Ignore no8c Report Abuse Thanks for posting this article!
sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,557 Points:1,919,005 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:32:34 PM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse Short-term fix. Need non-fossil fuels!
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,490 Points:1,509,590 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:30:52 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse If the state governments can get these vehicles rolling then the infrastructure would follow. Sounds good in theory.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,848 Points:1,612,045 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:30:24 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse It’s a chicken-and-egg thing. CNG vehicles are not practical until the support infrastructure is available but no one wants to install the fueling stations, etc., until there are vehicles to use them.
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,726 Points:415,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:29:49 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Can't be much more complicated than engines that have been running on propane for years. Just get the fueling stations in place.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,946 Points:1,870,860 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:29:40 PM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse We have a large fleet (actually several) using NG here in Nevada and we have stations as well, though not widely advertised.
nj2000ng Champion Author Houston Posts:1,507 Points:449,020 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:27:17 PM Ignore nj2000ng Report Abuse Its amazing they have to go ask for something that makes so much sense.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:871,990 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:26:30 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse The Obama administration doesn't care about CNG, only the electric vehicles. Detroit has to keep Washington satisfied to keep the dollars coming.
phinsup67 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,365 Points:1,179,880 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:25:50 PM Ignore phinsup67 Report Abuse Just one of many things needed...
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,290 Points:2,142,950 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:25:47 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse State governments are much more in-tune with reality than the losers we have in Washington.
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,067 Points:799,835 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:20:06 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse I've been saying that for a long time. Another reason why Detroit is struggling.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,300 Points:597,690 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:19:07 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
mswillia Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,628 Points:571,925 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:17:04 PM Ignore mswillia Report Abuse build it!
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,569 Points:1,771,920 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:16:06 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse I add my voice... please build the infrastructure.
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:6,069 Points:1,669,325 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 11:13:13 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse How about some diesel engine choices as well.