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State grants promoting use of natural gas in vehicles

Tribune Democrat -- As of Dec. 1, the state will begin accepting applications for grants geared at increasing the demand for vehicles that replace gasoline with natural gas.

The state Department of Environmental Protection announced Thursday it will make $20 million available over the next three years to help in the initial purchase and conversion costs of heavy-duty natural gas vehicles.

The grant money will come from funds coming to the state from oil companies drilling wells in Pennsylvania’s Marcellus Shale and other forms of natural gas.

In the first year, $10 million in grants will be available to public transportation services and other local transportation organizations, including non-profits, DEP Secretary Michael Krancer said in a statement.


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 5:49:29 AM

put out more CNG stations and people will buy the cars more.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 5:53:06 AM

scuba: just like the government gives taxpayers' money to subsidize Pig Oil's wealth.
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scubadaniel
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:37:01 PM

Remember that is our money they are granting to these companies.
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tomok
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 4:32:10 AM

State grants promoting use of natural gas in vehicles and spend more taxpayer money? As more and more vehicles, trucks or buses are built to use natural gas OR converted over to natural gas, more natural gas will be used and the price will go up, just like the morning sun. Don't expect natural gas to stay low for very long, the trend for all fuel prices is always up and up more! It does Not matter if you have to heat your house with it either, higher natural gas prices. An article on here said that less natural gas is being produced because there is NO profit to keep drilling and producing natural gas.
Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries that will pay more for it, much more than here. There will be NO price reduction or cheaper prices for fuel or natural gas IN the US, so it does NOT matter how much crude oil or natural gas is produced.
More refineries is Not the answer, keep the exported fuel and natural gas here.
If you are traveling, know where your natural gas refill stations are and plan according. There are many online sites that have CNG refill stations located across the US for people that have to refill their CNG vehicles. Plan your trip with those stations on the route. With more natural gas trucks, truck stops will have or install CNG refueling pumps to take care of them. So cars and pickups can refuel at those same natural gas pumps too.
If CNG vehicles are 'bombs,' then why aren't gasoline vehicles bombs also with their 10 to 20 gallons of highly flammable liquid fuel in the fuel tanks. They have crashed, caught on fire and exploded too! DUH!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII!
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naspa
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:11:04 AM

Great. Grant. Gone.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:09:46 AM

Not here!
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FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 12:00:37 AM

oh no
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Vette1967
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:59:01 PM

There goes my heating bill.
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bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:58:44 PM

Put NG in Penn state and fleet cars and use state tax money.
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oldiesman
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:58:21 PM

T Boone and the Bushes love it.
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comprof
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:55:58 PM

drz614: I agree. Just another way to line the pockets of those who agree with them.
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WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:55:17 PM

Governments should not subsidize any industry.
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drz614
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:52:52 PM

if there is so much xcess ng gas available and it's a good business decision, why do companies need grant money. by 2014, all excess ng in this country will become lng and exported anyway.
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wz
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:50:10 PM

The low fuel cost will entice high consumption users to make the switch. No need to waste taxpayer money on political favors.
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LQQKGAS
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:50:00 PM


Arizona tried this and then suddenly pulled the rug out from under it.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:47:37 PM

only a matter of time
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clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:46:30 PM

Good to get CNG going but don't start the subsidy game.

Governments are bankrupt. Quit spending money that does not exist.

Deficit spending is like credit card spending. Fine until the bills come in and don't stop -- ever!
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:43:36 PM

CNG makes sense.
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mstearno
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:42:27 PM

great just like cash for clunkers
tax payers (makers) get to give more than their fair share
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:38:09 PM

Artificially produced demand.
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DEG
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:36:43 PM

I think ths is a mistake. It will end up driving electricity and home heating prices will skyrocket (especially in the western states).
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:36:05 PM

Good for more CNG usage.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:35:45 PM

A good place to start.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:34:52 PM

cng way to go
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:33:36 PM

Good use up all that excess gas drive the price up.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:33:07 PM

sounds like a great idea
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:32:39 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:29:36 PM

That;s my heating fuel.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:25:32 PM

Great idea
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:22:57 PM

Good place to start
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:22:53 PM

Good idea.
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milespergallon
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:22:07 PM

Need the conversions manufactured to use in our vehicles and a push to put Natural Gas propulsion in new vehicles
NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:21:32 PM

To paraphrase UC2 who makes an excellent point, they need to do research to avoid future disasters.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:21:32 PM

Eat bean's an we will have more Natural gas than washington has Hot Air! No that would never happen.
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wulf2000
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:21:23 PM

Will these grants be based on merit or political connections?

I am cynical.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:20:57 PM

It's all "hot air."
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fuelsaverMN
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:19:11 PM

Why not natural gas in smaller vehicles that we drive.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:18:01 PM

Gotta help get rid of all that gas.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:17:32 PM

OK
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abcdMA
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:15:18 PM

we need to use more cng
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:13:55 PM

but they have to do the needed research to avoid future disasters
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:11:42 PM

It's worth promoting.
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knot2swift
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:11:31 PM

Well $10 million is squat so who cares?

Like Natural Gas, Propane has done well in our region, it was at 79.9 a litre last year ago and has been at 79.9 since.

Why? ... Propane is a component of Natural Gas and while Nat. Gas prices have been falling ,Auto Propane dealers are making a killing, They are quite happy giving it to us at the same price these days.

For idiots born yesterday that don't have a clue...Auto Propane was born in Canada as well as other places in the 1970's when OPEC gave us the finger.

I suppose now the US could give the finger back but Americans are simply to stupid these days to act.

[Edited by: knot2swift at 11/30/2012 11:17:48 PM EST]
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CCLighthouse
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:10:47 PM

ExplorerWA the grant money is coming from the oil companies. And it is helping to create a demand for their products. If their are no natural gas vehicles then their is no need for more natural gas.
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:09:51 PM

There seems to be some momentum towards expanding use of CNG in fleets.
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Mudsprings
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:07:30 PM

There is a lot of natural gas in my car.
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camaro_man
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:07:26 PM

where does all this money come from???? poor tax payers
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:07:18 PM

Cool!
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:07:06 PM

Hmmm...
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 11:05:22 PM

That would save all around.
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