LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:43:11 PM
lightbulbman2008 from Worcester...
Of course, it doesn't have a thing to do with gas prices!. But if you will read the GB guidelines for article submissions, not only would you learn something, but you would also find that this article is well within the guidelines.
On the other hand, if you are just posting for points....you need to do better!
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dranske

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:06:30 PM
Interesting, isn't it...
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Amtrgas

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:58:35 PM
This is really great technology.
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heysailor

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:41:51 PM
Solar power has a bright future
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nigelb

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:16:22 PM
Solar power has been slow to develop but hopefully this is changing. For anyone asking how this relates to oil prices the answer is simple - if solar can replace some oil usage, the demand for oil will drop!
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dollarwatcher

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:16:06 PM
These solar chargers aren't cheap either.
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LilRedWagonIN

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:13:07 PM
I want a very inexpensive, cost-effective solar roof panel that will provide more than enough power for household use and to charge the electric car batteries.
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SUPERQUACK

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:11:20 PM
SOUNDS GOOD
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janctx

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:10:09 PM
instead of fuel stations we will have solar stations
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lightbulbman2008

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:08:02 PM
at least solar is free and clean on good days.!!!!
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lightbulbman2008

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:05:11 PM
how is this related to oil prices and oil related products?
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Franck

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 7:34:02 PM
I believe it is inevitable that solar power will be the energy source of the future. The oil & coal companies will be powerless to stop it once the technology reaches the point where solar power becomes adequately efficient.
The article gives me hope that this point is in the not too distant future.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 7:31:07 PM
Hugo40: only to a degree. Today you can buy films that can be added to windows to make a glass/steel office building basically into one energy generating unit. The problem is the ubiquitous problem: cost.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 7:29:56 PM
yes, NightOwl, progress and hopefully it will help bring cost down for the rest of us.. I know my place is wired for solar when it's available.. smart meter is in place too :-D
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Night Owl

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:06:51 PM
"So previously we had around 15% efficiencies, we're now on the verge of getting 20%, and within the next 18 months we expect to deliver around 22% efficiencies"
At least progress is being made.
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NavyStore

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:31:31 PM
Invest in American companies that will provide American jobs! It gives Americans economic & energy independence!!
Plug Baby, Plug!!!
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Hugo40

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:10:24 PM
The size of the solar panels is most certainly a problem.
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milespergallon

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:04:20 PM
Have to watch them closely, otherwise something or someone may get in their way to success!
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Rt118E

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:01:31 PM
Big Oil & OPEC will try to stop this. They may need back up fuel in England because it is not sunny all the time.
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saturn96

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:00:44 PM
This is great news, keep improving it.
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roadjet

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:59:26 PM
The Sun's energy is the most powerful power source in existance. So harvesting it for a power source seems logical and necessary. With technology gaining ground and breaking new envelopes every day, it is only a matter of time for a viable and affordable method is introduced and massly accepted.
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04tang

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:56:50 PM
Sounds good to me.
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CatMan623

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:54:28 PM
Keep innovating. The market will decide.
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hank1326

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:53:42 PM
Great news, let's make it work for the production line.
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Desertbums

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:45:15 PM
forward we go. A little bit at a time. I like this. Sounds like a good thing.
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ramboTX

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:39:11 PM
the direction we should be heading instead of electric
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BrucePen

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:38:02 PM
We are a long way from having solar power affordable on a large scale. But we are improving all the time.
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my3sons

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:37:14 PM
we need this to be practical and inexpensive. If that happens many more people will invest in all types of solar equipment. i know I would switch if I could afford it.
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tom11743

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:36:03 PM
Sounds like a great idea.
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pdcarver

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:35:44 PM
They are on the right track. Smaller, better, cheaper.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:33:02 PM
guyincognitoNY: no, it's not far fetched. We've had "solar" aka photovoltaic cells for a long time. Can you even remember the first time you saw a pocket calculator with a "solar" panel embedded?
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:31:54 PM
Road-Runner: even better, embed solar panels into vehicular roofs, or have small, but powerful panels at each parking slot.
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Chazzy12

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:30:59 PM
We'll need this stuff to recharge our electric cars, right?
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:30:42 PM
more solar, wind, power and hydrogen is good.
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Road-Runner

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:30:00 PM
Solar powered charging stations for all these electric cars? Easy. Require all parking lots to be equipped with carport roofs (topped with solar panels) for each parking space. Keeps the power source close to the user which is much more efficient that using transmission lines (which, thanks to friction, lose a huge amount of power to the atmosphere as heat) to bring power from distant locales.
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niceguytx

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:28:23 PM
We need to better harness the sun. I would like more. I have had a solar calculator for 20 years, and love it; no batteries.
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MikLamb

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:28:03 PM
Research and development can actually work!
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amearly

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:27:35 PM
When there really serious about this than maybe everyone can afford it.
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Zeke33

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:27:34 PM
I like the sound of the laptop charger.
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gass12

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:27:27 PM
Anything to bring the price of Gas down -will this help?
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TheSnowstorm

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:26:42 PM
teafortwo: very well said!
Hay Cake, once a gain a terrific find! Keep 'em coming.
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LuckyD43

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:23:17 PM
Hey, I have an idea. How about solar-powered charging stations for all those electric cars they plan to build? Just thinking........
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cincidap

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:22:49 PM
I suppose that's good. In the long term, if it works, it will reduce oil demand which "should" lower gas prices.
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Cruiser340

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:20:33 PM
good ideas, but what does this have to do with gas prices?
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BurntOrange

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:16:25 PM
"A consortium of 12 European businesses plans to build a huge solar project in the Sahara desert. "
How times change. In Europe, private business takes the lead. Here in the US, we expect the government to lead alternative energy efforts, using the tax dollars they removed from our pockets.
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letmathe

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:08:35 PM
good ideas
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teafortwo

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:07:26 PM
The secret is in the SCIENCE.
The ENERGY is there and we have dedicated SCIENTISTS and ENGINEERS (and entrepreneurs) around the world working on figuring out how to efficiently and economically harness that energy. The technology is advancing DAILYas represented in this article.
Terrific article Cake. Thanks for sharing ;0)
FROM THE ARTICLE:
The Canadian university installed sun canopies in the roof to direct light through tunnels in the ceilings above every floor.
Each tunnel has a highly reflective coating to bounce the light round the building. When a cloud goes over, the fluorescent lights kick in to maintain brightness until the sun returns.
Allen Upward, a research engineer at the University of British Columbia (UBC) said the system is seven times more effective than traditional solar methods.
"As a system for lighting a building, it's far more effective than using solar panels to generate electricity and then turning that electricity back into light," he explained.
The sun's potential remains under-exploited - the Earth gets 5,000 times more energy from the sun than we use in electricity. Solar farms have been popping up all over the world in an attempt to harness the green power on a mass scale.
One solar farm in southern Spain has swapped panels for mirrors and is using the sun's heat rather than brightness to create electricity.
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AJKPA

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:05:30 PM
sun is free and wont run out like coal or oil
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AJKPA

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:05:00 PM
use the sun
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hwmillerster

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:04:44 PM
Solar power is always going to have the 2 watts/cm^2 solar constant. To get anything higher you'd have to get closer to the sun.
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