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Pipeline demands to increase in coming decade

dailybreeze -- The oilsands industry is going to be demanding more pipelines across Western Canada in the next decade, even if three proposed projects get built, the head of Kinder Morgan Canada predicts.

Kinder Morgan president Ian Anderson told the Vancouver Board of Trade on Thursday that the North American market for Canadian oilsands crude is drying up as U.S. production rises, and producers in Alberta will soon be looking to move their product across B.C. and out of ports on the West Coast.

"Where's the market? You look to the bottom right — it's China. They're going to double their imports of crude oil over the next 10 years," Anderson told the business luncheon.

The three major projects already proposed include the Kinder Morgan proposal to triple the capacity of its Trans Mountain Pipel

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Submitted Feb 01, 2013 By: aservant

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 5:56:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse we'll see how the global economy goes... may not have anything to put oil into by the time demand is supposed to increase.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,635 Points:2,078,315 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 8:14:47 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse I wouldn't expect any decline, now would I?
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:813 Points:168,680 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 1:05:02 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Now that they have the oil, they need to send it to the consumers...pipelines are the most efficient way.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,918,255 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 12:55:14 AM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Sounds like a Canadian problem to me. We solved ours by turning to the railroads that can go anywhere and don't need special permission, or taking away lands from farmers. I read that the cost by rail is about the same as by pipeline and it puts people to work and creates jobs now. Canada would do well to send its oil east and west by rail. The article is correct, we in the USA don't need the tar sand oil as we have our own clean oil. It didn't save us a penny at the pump anyway!
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,139 Points:1,088,080 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 12:11:00 AM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse The eco terrorists and eco nazis are trying to stop the pipelines but eventually they will fail and the economy will be the priority. This product will be sold and there is nothing the eco nazis can do to stop it.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,005 Points:1,309,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 12:00:11 AM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse We can thank our dear leader for cancelling the keystone pipeline.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,067 Points:1,387,845 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:57:57 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Pipelines make a lot more sense than trucks and trains.
Steve6921 Sophomore Author New Hampshire Posts:104 Points:156,980 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:57:34 PM Ignore Steve6921 Report Abuse too little too late
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:8,609 Points:1,910,980 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:56:59 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse This not new, been going on for a couple of years now. it has just been brought to light because of the Keystone XL debauchery.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,805 Points:1,427,825 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:56:20 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse Cheaper than by truck or rail...
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,244 Points:584,445 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:53:06 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Many good posts and a very good post by Buddy2264!!!
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,709 Points:2,151,620 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:48:57 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse The pipe line may not help the USA if most of it is exported.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,048 Points:1,728,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:46:56 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse what's wrong with the highest bidder?? it's called capitalism GEEEZZZZZ but if we produce it we create jobs jobs=tax revenues more revenues = less debt less debs= stronger dollar...
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,639 Points:2,357,045 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:45:03 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse And when we have the pipelines where is that oil and fuel going to go, not the US or Canada, but to the highest bidder for the profits, leaving us with lower inventory and higher prices. We also do not know what tar sand production is going to do in the future to water and other natural resources, only time will tell.
TheHermit Champion Author Maine Posts:3,404 Points:127,030 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:44:22 PM Ignore TheHermit Report Abuse Means jobs, yes?
OU8121959 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,699 Points:530,035 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:43:58 PM Ignore OU8121959 Report Abuse alright
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:6,513 Points:1,789,135 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:43:29 PM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse o.k.
johton Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,200 Points:308,490 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:42:52 PM Ignore johton Report Abuse Will the liberals let you build it?
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,459 Points:1,708,460 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:42:19 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse get us our oil!
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:6,143 Points:1,272,810 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:41:46 PM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse In 2020 or starting now?
rrs517 All-Star Author Colorado Posts:913 Points:341,030 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:41:22 PM Ignore rrs517 Report Abuse If we won't build a pipeline to take their oil, the Canadians will sell it elsewhere. Another indicator of our stupid administration that is clearly marching to a different drummer.
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,193 Points:514,850 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:39:28 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse They will find a way to sell their oil.
snerd All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:930 Points:652,075 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:37:34 PM Ignore snerd Report Abuse Ok
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,709 Points:353,065 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:36:54 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse No surprise here.
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,088 Points:650,930 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:36:39 PM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse This will not happen in BC. The oil will have to move through other ports.
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,047 Points:1,966,110 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:33:40 PM Ignore esquared Report Abuse "...triple the capacity of its Trans Mountain Pipeline...?" This I gotta see!
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,210 Points:869,225 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:31:51 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Makes sense, the more we use, the more needs to be transported.
wshutton Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,657 Points:922,245 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:30:46 PM Ignore wshutton Report Abuse That makes sense.
BBHybrid Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:6,465 Points:1,294,070 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:29:21 PM Ignore BBHybrid Report Abuse no crap sherlock
bginsj Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,853 Points:1,231,610 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:26:06 PM Ignore bginsj Report Abuse good i think
BREW9 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:866 Points:2,908,955 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:26:03 PM Ignore BREW9 Report Abuse ok
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,390 Points:2,905,735 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:15:53 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse Obummer's total mindset is to screw over the American public until we scream uncle and then he we screw us more.
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,785 Points:815,310 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:14:37 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse I guess blocking the pipelines through the United States is NoBama's way of helping out his Chinese Commie friends...
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:6,059 Points:1,666,625 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:08:37 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse And yet this administration is intentionally delaying the Canadian oil pipeline.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,284 Points:594,595 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:07:20 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse this will be good for those building and supplying materials for the pipelines. unfortunately a large portion of this oil will go overseas.
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,535 Points:2,618,995 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:05:46 PM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse We are missing a big opportunity by Obama blocking the pipeline.
BigBlue5 All-Star Author Spokane Posts:658 Points:133,560 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 11:01:07 PM Ignore BigBlue5 Report Abuse Really now
HoosierDaddyKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,257 Points:294,135 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:55:49 PM Ignore HoosierDaddyKY Report Abuse hmmm...
Karisholman Veteran Author Nevada Posts:281 Points:168,160 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:55:32 PM Ignore Karisholman Report Abuse increase oil production, yes!
iamforiu Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,555 Points:707,740 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:53:53 PM Ignore iamforiu Report Abuse ok
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,212 Points:815,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:52:31 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse why wouldn't the cheaper alternative be chased?
Manual_Shifter All-Star Author New Brunswick Posts:501 Points:613,105 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:50:54 PM Ignore Manual_Shifter Report Abuse And another option is concentration with extension of the pipeline from Alberta to Montreal and further east to New Brunswick where Canada's largest and underutilized refinery (Saint John)is located (deep water port, closer to much of Asia's oil hungry prospects than west coast ports). Eastern Canada seems to be already planning this approach, taking advantage of the "sputtering" States and Western Provinces.
scubadaniel Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,406 Points:688,545 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:50:01 PM Ignore scubadaniel Report Abuse Energy independence.. Talked about by 40 years of presidents, but none have done it..
GNo1 All-Star Author Nashville Posts:905 Points:379,430 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:48:18 PM Ignore GNo1 Report Abuse Obama will use Solar and Wind instead.
bobcatfan Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,582 Points:614,520 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:45:28 PM Ignore bobcatfan Report Abuse If the US can become energy independent, that will counter China. They will still be exporting money for oil and we can be investing in our own industries. Advantage us. BUT: ONLY IF WE BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT.
Cellsite Champion Author Appleton Posts:1,223 Points:283,925 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:44:25 PM Ignore Cellsite Report Abuse Ok
msf1527 All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:536 Points:130,445 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:44:14 PM Ignore msf1527 Report Abuse Ok
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,789 Points:1,840,525 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:42:15 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse If this is true, we will have more oil available. So, should not our prices drop? They should . but don't hold your breath becasue we have greedy oil compaies who are getting tax breaks from the American consumers and then they screw us by charging us higher prices for those gallons of product. This is rediculous!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,907 Points:1,571,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:39:54 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse Build Keystone
theschmuck Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,902 Points:1,508,600 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 10:35:29 PM Ignore theschmuck Report Abuse what I'd like to see someday - having ALL of the companies that have their products made outside of the US, regardless of what they make, and have the gov't give them 1 year to return their munufacturing back into the States, if not - impound their money until they do. All the products are made by cheap and sweatshop labor and then then the companies jack up the prices once inside the states and the consumer gets fleeced with the high prices.