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NHTSA Wants Hybrids, EVs to Be Noisier

Design News -- In an effort to make streets safer for pedestrians, the National Highway Traffic Administration (NHTSA) has proposed a rule that could require engineers to add more sound to hybrids and electric vehicles (EVs).

The proposed rule, a follow-on to the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2010, would likely require that automakers add external speakers to hybrids and EVs. NHTSA estimates that such speaker systems would add about $30 to the manufacturing cost of the cars, but could prevent about 2,800 injuries over the life of each vehicle model year.

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Submitted Jan 18, 2013 By: doeslayersr

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Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,705 Points:2,084,265 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 10:37:55 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse We used to use baseball cards in the spokes for noise. I wonder how many Mickey Mantle cards I ruined!!
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:329,335 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:20:08 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Sometimes ya just can't win.
kkimes Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,606 Points:1,508,105 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:06:03 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse I actually look forward to the day when the streets will be much quieter. I could live with a noise for under 10mph so people in parking lots know you are there.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,830 Points:644,225 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:49:15 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse Good comments!
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,000 Points:2,529,260 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:17:51 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse old news
BAN_e10_GAS Sophomore Author Texas Posts:119 Points:437,130 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:16:54 AM Ignore BAN_e10_GAS Report Abuse PUT DOWN the cell phone & pay attention to where you are going!! I've seen stupid people on their cell phone step out into traffic. The problem is that stupid people want to be protected from their own stupidity, and stupid government thinks that it's mission is to insure that the stupid people stay around to keep them elected. You can fight fire with fire, but you can't fight stupid with stupid. The gene pool DESPERATELY needs some chlorine! Maybe quiet EV's and hybrids are this chlorine?! [Edited by: BAN_e10_GAS at 1/19/2013 12:18:20 AM EST]
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,810 Points:1,587,125 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:16:02 AM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse If you look where you are walking, there is no problem.
Z51Corvette Champion Author Austin Posts:8,501 Points:1,674,095 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:12:58 AM Ignore Z51Corvette Report Abuse Noisier... haha! It's always something isn't it...
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,490 Points:1,232,000 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:12:29 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse We have to much noise pollution now, this is a good thing! . (idiots)
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,455 Points:292,640 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:12:16 AM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse What ever happened to personal responsibility when walking and crossing the street. PAY ATTENTION!
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,502 Points:1,512,030 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:11:49 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse What a crock. I wanna go back to dual Thrush mufflers.
NAVYHM All-Star Author Cleveland Posts:761 Points:1,387,205 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:10:01 AM Ignore NAVYHM Report Abuse NHTSA... HONDA'S AIRBAGS DON'T WORK IN A CRASH FOR THE DRIVERS SIDE... THAT'S OK, AS LONG AS THE PASSENGER SIDE WORKS... 1 OUT OF 2 AIN'T BAD... THANKS TOYOTA... YOU REALLY HAVE THE DUMB AMERICANS FOOLED...
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,094 Points:1,104,830 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:09:53 AM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse How much noise, that is the question.
scrounger Champion Author Vancouver Posts:9,778 Points:3,046,055 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:09:15 AM Ignore scrounger Report Abuse perhaps pedestrians need to pay attention to what goes on around them instead of heads down hunched over their texting and earbuds stuffed in their heads
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,483 Points:665,125 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:08:42 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Now noise pollution?
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,264 Points:1,228,725 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:07:23 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse Just put a politician in the trunk. They would be doing more than they are now in Washington.
Kawibiker Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,175 Points:205,575 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:06:41 AM Ignore Kawibiker Report Abuse Quiet is better.. people need to pay attention.
Doomsday64 All-Star Author Austin Posts:874 Points:338,955 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:06:29 AM Ignore Doomsday64 Report Abuse Really?
jackson661 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,772 Points:1,478,745 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:06:04 AM Ignore jackson661 Report Abuse Makes no sense.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,707 Points:540,970 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:05:02 AM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Hummmm.......
cheaper0ON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:993 Points:400,005 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:04:23 AM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Make Sense.
Beboper Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,737 Points:2,165,740 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:03:53 AM Ignore Beboper Report Abuse old news
tailpipeFL All-Star Author Tampa Posts:764 Points:45,165 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:03:35 AM Ignore tailpipeFL Report Abuse They should be the first to lose their jobs when we get a new regime.
Cheney Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,025 Points:2,536,945 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:02:50 AM Ignore Cheney Report Abuse ridiculous.... the pedestrians can put their cells in their pockets and take a look around.
jtfftj Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,182 Points:1,250,925 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:00:01 AM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse A red nose that lights up on the front is next.
tailpipeFL All-Star Author Tampa Posts:764 Points:45,165 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:58:59 PM Ignore tailpipeFL Report Abuse Big Brother keeps pushing and pushing.All cars are quiet when they are at idle or in a mall parking lot.
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:504,980 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:58:41 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Wouln't know............
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,277 Points:591,330 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:58:34 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse MY, my... Back to the drawing board...
sent4456 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,342 Points:2,127,875 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:57:24 PM Ignore sent4456 Report Abuse Why?
Mr Tex All-Star Author Dallas Posts:880 Points:2,495,320 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:57:24 PM Ignore Mr Tex Report Abuse Would the car still be quiet inside?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,588 Points:1,774,820 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:56:52 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Make sound like a dual engine monster tractor at the County Fair Tractor Pulls. That ought to do it.
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,284 Points:883,090 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:56:01 PM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse bad idea, one of the best selling points is that they are quiet.
Livewire50 Sophomore Author Tampa Posts:127 Points:781,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:55:50 PM Ignore Livewire50 Report Abuse Maybe the government could make all manufacturers add a recording of a real gas guzzler so that the government controlled more things. I'd say the public should be more observent and quit having Uncle Sam interfere.
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,018 Points:215,955 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:55:32 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse Gasmack, look behind you! : )
gasmack Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,720 Points:670,350 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:52:55 PM Ignore gasmack Report Abuse Do it. I don't want one sneaking up on me.
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:52:33 PM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse The Prius song/video :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M8aCqmHr3o [Edited by: WE0H at 1/18/2013 11:53:02 PM EST]
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,090 Points:849,300 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:52:01 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse Uh Huh. Govt. agencies always want the stupid and the dumb. Now they'll put noisemakers on the cars like those things on yer olde bike.
OU8121959 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,719 Points:533,935 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:51:45 PM Ignore OU8121959 Report Abuse no way
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:51:25 PM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse There is actually a Prius song :)
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,080 Points:1,734,140 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:48:53 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse the drivers should be so happy they should be singing
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:47:19 PM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse Actually on the 2012 Prius the speaker is in front of the drivers wheel well but buried far from the front grill that the article said it was behind. It sounds nothing like a motor. Think of George Jetson and you get the idea of the space ship type sound. The faster the car is moving the higher frequency the sound is. The only place it can be heard is in tunnels or pulling into the garage. It is total BS having it, but there is a plug and a place to plug that harness into other than the speaker. Must be for other countries that don't require it yet all the Prius harnesses are the same to save money rather than having special harnesses for different countries.
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,254 Points:1,687,900 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:47:15 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Too funny!
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,390 Points:1,897,135 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:44:50 PM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse I can understand this
dcjauburn Champion Author Sacramento Posts:12,478 Points:2,242,515 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:42:34 PM Ignore dcjauburn Report Abuse how stupid is this? Create more noise because some people don't look where they are going. I have had no problem hearing hybrids and EV's, the tires rolling on the pavement make noise. If they want noise, how about putting rocks inside the hub caps (a cheap fix).
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,814 Points:1,845,400 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:41:01 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Makes sense. Lets ban cell phone while walking. Pay attention to your surroundings.
GigHarborHound Champion Author Tacoma Posts:2,547 Points:490,440 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:40:43 PM Ignore GigHarborHound Report Abuse WHAT?
TXCRZ Rookie Author Dallas Posts:42 Points:457,295 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:40:05 PM Ignore TXCRZ Report Abuse Safety first, I can afford $30!
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:39:33 PM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse Old news. My Prius already has this noise maker. Makes it sound like a space ship when driven in EV mode under 15 mph.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,213 Points:874,085 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:38:51 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse The NHTSA doesn't have enough to do.
Beaveronparade Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,108 Points:637,535 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:38:35 PM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse I saw this on the news. I have to wonder whether or not it will make a difference though. People get struck by loud cars, buses and trucks all the time after all.