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Malloy energy plan pits natural gas against oil

AP -- A broad effort by Gov. Dannel P. Malloy to reshape energy policy in Connecticut with incentives to boost efficiency and keep down costs has drawn strong opposition from the home heating oil industry, which accuses the state of encouraging residential and business customers to dump local oil suppliers in favor of increasingly popular natural gas.

Thirty-one percent of Connecticut homes heat with gas, compared with 47 percent in Massachusetts and 48 percent in Rhode Island, the state says. And the percentage of commercial and industrial businesses with access to gas is only slightly higher, state officials say.

Connecticut has promoted a "significant amount of public subsidies" for oil with incentives to promote efficiency in buildings heated by oil and tapping into a fund financed by el

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Submitted Dec 04, 2012 By: fracknsave

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 5:44:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Train: at least for now.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,272 Points:1,742,905 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 3:30:53 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse There are better technologies than gas and oil that are not even considered.
RTTT Rookie Author Providence Posts:30 Points:668,950 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:15:35 AM Ignore RTTT Report Abuse Almost 10 years ago ...Supervised Gas line installation & replacement & conversion of schools and library's in Boston, heck even some Natural gas bus filling stations. Why so slow for everyone else?????
RTTT Rookie Author Providence Posts:30 Points:668,950 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:08:15 AM Ignore RTTT Report Abuse Funny shit, in RI I spent years cutting off gas services to houses that didn't' use it, and the same happened thru out the north east. A federal safety mandate... unused gas services to homes inactive for 5 years had to be permanently cut. So now .....
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:02:16 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse What's next, @TWS658? "Get off my d@mned lawn!"?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:59:45 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse You have two choices, @TBRR. Don't live so far out in the woods or extend the gas line yourself. Let's see some of that work ethic you keep spouting off about.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,805 Points:415,065 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:57:23 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Natural gas and propane aren't the same, @rjoeh. Furnaces that burn one need a different burner if they switch to the other fuel. Those furnaces have blown up or caused bad fires when someone improperly converted them from propane to natural gas or vice versa.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,583 Points:1,774,295 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:51:47 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Go for both. Competition would help.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,181 Points:1,932,430 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:48:30 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Both will lose. Hydrogen fuel cells are the future.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,086 Points:2,471,190 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:48:02 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Some call natural gas LPG or Propane. Both do the same job but do not need pipelines for delivery. Meanwhile, heating oil is also delivered in trucks and stored in local owned tanks. The Governor needs to remember that Gas is not the answer to energy costs but just one option in the mix.
yyc2yow All-Star Author Ottawa Posts:658 Points:571,310 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:47:16 PM Ignore yyc2yow Report Abuse Gaz is cleaner
boatmen Champion Author New York Posts:3,085 Points:623,555 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:41:07 PM Ignore boatmen Report Abuse We need to encourage the use of natural gas over oil we have an abundance of it here and can create jobs here with it cleaner cheaper greedy biches Big Oil will do anything to prevent it
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,075 Points:1,733,165 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:31:51 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse let the markets rule
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,309 Points:599,570 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:27:30 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse this will work for awhile until the large scale exportation of lng begins in 2014. gas companies want the customers and profit but don't want to absorb any of the costs of extending lines..... why is that?
atdinut Champion Author California Posts:1,608 Points:353,985 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:26:35 PM Ignore atdinut Report Abuse is this a surprise to anyone who pays attention?
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,672 Points:599,320 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:26:24 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse it would be nice to have a gas line to my home. the closest one is a mile away with no plans to extend the line. stuck with propane. Push work ethic, not redistribution of wealth.
gd83goldwinger Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,428 Points:504,980 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:22:35 PM Ignore gd83goldwinger Report Abuse Ahh, Someone that's trying to keep cost down for a change to the consumers. To bad for the oil companies.
pacecar68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:4,666 Points:868,070 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:19:57 PM Ignore pacecar68 Report Abuse good.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,814 Points:1,845,400 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:16:50 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Whats he thinking?
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,045 Points:1,488,830 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:16:04 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Oil has to compete with natural gas, without regard to what any governor says.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:792 Points:140,730 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:16:03 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse really?
EconomiserAZ All-Star Author Tucson Posts:765 Points:145,840 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:15:49 PM Ignore EconomiserAZ Report Abuse May the games begin.
kzrooster Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,390 Points:518,475 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:14:38 PM Ignore kzrooster Report Abuse Interesting
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,229 Points:519,825 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:10:37 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse I'm all for the use of Nat Gas. We don't need gov't subsidues, though.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:04:55 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse atural gas is an excellent energy source for heating homes and businesses. I can't imagine those totals being so low as we have had over 80% of homes heated with natural gas for over 30 years and now there is an increasing amount being heated by geothermal heating systems.
BREW9 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:891 Points:2,913,930 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:03:35 PM Ignore BREW9 Report Abuse ok
TWS658 Champion Author Portland Posts:4,543 Points:950,875 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:03:01 PM Ignore TWS658 Report Abuse Government sticking its nose where it does not belong.
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,782 Points:723,475 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:02:47 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse As a Connecticut resident I'm happy with this one!
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:02:26 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse The government should get out of the decision making business, they re not good at it.
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wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,810 Points:820,285 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:01:51 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Hmmm...
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,764 Points:2,468,380 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:01:34 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Who will win this battle?
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walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,004 Points:1,122,655 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:59:41 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse That will be interesting.
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,584 Points:1,700,390 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:55:29 PM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse That's my heating gas!
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,718 Points:761,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:53:49 PM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse I have never wanted to live in a house heated by oil.
TheThorn All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:827 Points:786,125 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:53:14 PM Ignore TheThorn Report Abuse yeah, i can see why the oil industry would be upset over people trying to cut costs in order to survive instead of continuing to pay their prices.
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,451 Points:719,590 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:51:43 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse Good.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,479 Points:1,713,110 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:48:50 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse This is only round one
Darwin00 All-Star Author Mississippi Posts:830 Points:271,905 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:44:20 PM Ignore Darwin00 Report Abuse Go natural gas!
Doomsday64 All-Star Author Austin Posts:869 Points:337,980 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:43:43 PM Ignore Doomsday64 Report Abuse Looks clear to me - NG is cleaner, very efficient and less expensive
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,093 Points:1,393,120 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:41:51 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Just say no to incentives.
scubadaniel Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,431 Points:694,020 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:38:50 PM Ignore scubadaniel Report Abuse All of the above.
mecforyou Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,962 Points:1,262,855 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:37:10 PM Ignore mecforyou Report Abuse WOW I never thought it be that high. In Iowa LP is the heating fuel.
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,605 Points:689,150 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:35:45 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse dhan for cheap gas
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,957 Points:2,080,110 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:30:45 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse This war will be significant given te amount of money at stake!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,932 Points:1,576,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:30:20 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse just let us have cheap fuel
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mlmeng Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,640 Points:592,785 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:22:54 PM Ignore mlmeng Report Abuse I lean toward natural gas but what the free market to determine it.