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Fuels study spurs ideas Friday, March 28, 2008
Indy Star -- When Ben Davis High School students got the assignment to research alternative fuels, sophomore Daniel Johnson didn't know what to think of hydrogen for vehicles. "At first I was quite skeptical, but as I studied I decided this is the way of the future," said Johnson, 15. More than 300 integrated chemistry and physics students studied alternatives such as ethanol, electricity, hybrids, hydrogen and a more efficient form of gasoline. This week, the top nine students in the project presented their arguments for either a hydrogen vehicle or an electric car.
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	Friday, March 28, 2008 Indy Star -- When Ben Davis High School students got the assignment to research alternative fuels, sophomore Daniel Johnson didn't know what to think of hydrogen for vehicles. "At first I was quite skeptical, but as I studied I decided this is the way of the future," said Johnson, 15. More than 300 integrated chemistry and physics students studied alternatives such as ethanol, electricity, hybrids, hydrogen and a more efficient form of gasoline. This week, the top nine students in the project presented their arguments for either a hydrogen vehicle or an electric car. Visit Indy Star for full article

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POLELANE All-Star Author Ohio Posts:512 Points:45,275 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 12:32:50 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	Healium would be safer; and it has medical properties II
Japsmith All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:697 Points:146,265 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:20:37 AM	Ignore Japsmith Report Abuse
	It is just a matter of time before hydrogen is on the forefront of supplying fuel to a vehicle. This vehicle may not get the performance of todays cars, but it will get to from point A to point B. We are just in too big of a hurry and too set in our ways to make any changes. Maybe we can get into a vehicle that uses hydrogen but can only go 50 MPH. If that is what technology brings us, then we need to adapt. But knowing people, they will refuse this technology because going only 50 MPH is too slow.
ScrappyDog Veteran Author Montana Posts:277 Points:1,370,275 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 10:00:41 AM	Ignore ScrappyDog Report Abuse
	Talking about hydrogen is all good, but has anyone considered the SCIENCE of it? We have no distribution system for it and if we start compressing it and hauling it around in rail cars, we will have thousands of potential Hindenbergs --- just one accident will stop all this discussion.
PetrolKingNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:324 Points:69,645 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:56:20 AM	Ignore PetrolKingNC Report Abuse
	dumb, dumb dumb
tarbaby1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,164 Points:566,970 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:52:08 AM	Ignore tarbaby1 Report Abuse
	We get to choose... If we'll pay for it, someone will make it...
Jizme All-Star Author Lincoln Posts:664 Points:1,094,740 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:49:10 AM	Ignore Jizme Report Abuse
	talk, talk, talk, when are we going to start doing?
racerdj All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:649 Points:239,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:46:19 AM	Ignore racerdj Report Abuse
	It's exciting to hear all the new ideas which will spring development of solutions!
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,815 Points:933,995 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:45:08 AM	Ignore bicycler Report Abuse
	briank; Some truth here but they will simply invest in the new fuel.
briank299 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:6,718 Points:1,262,500 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:43:06 AM	Ignore briank299 Report Abuse
	Why are we behind? Simple answer: MONEY. Big Oil will never allow another type of fuel into the market.
tags610 Champion Author Lincoln Posts:1,351 Points:327,425 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:42:06 AM	Ignore tags610 Report Abuse
	Ideas but no action.
PurplePuppy Rookie Author Florida Posts:62 Points:26,330 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:38:46 AM	Ignore PurplePuppy Report Abuse
	Why are we so behind? Is it the Car manufactures? The Oil Company's, or our own lazy fault?
rjoeh All-Star Author Michigan Posts:524 Points:889,310 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:38:27 AM	Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse
	a lot of good ideas with hydrogen in cluding a possible maglev transit system in the near future if the bureaucrats would stop bending over to the big oil money.
RCinNM Champion Author New Mexico Posts:3,378 Points:346,185 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:35:08 AM	Ignore RCinNM Report Abuse
	We should already had a fix by now.
KO292 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:976 Points:372,390 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:55 AM	Ignore KO292 Report Abuse
	about time!!!
Jahrahnimo Veteran Author Georgia Posts:399 Points:96,675 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:42 AM	Ignore Jahrahnimo Report Abuse
	Necessity is the mother of invention!
c47 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,260 Points:487,765 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:29:29 AM	Ignore c47 Report Abuse
	We,ll have to wait and see.
Matts_Pap Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:312 Points:64,195 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:25:49 AM	Ignore Matts_Pap Report Abuse
	Every high school and college science class should be researching the same subject. The kids have the brains to save themselves.
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,535 Points:300,450 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:20:07 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	How many will pursue later in life?
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,772 Points:300,320 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:18:21 AM	Ignore papou Report Abuse
	" Do not put off for tomorrow ,What can be done today !
cudatim Veteran Author San Antonio Posts:374 Points:237,715 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:09:55 AM	Ignore cudatim Report Abuse
	Ideas in todays youth turn out to be tomorrows answers to many problems. We can just hope that an answer is found to todays problems soon.
Mazdaman7Q Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,853 Points:601,785 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:07:27 AM	Ignore Mazdaman7Q Report Abuse
	It's bad when school kids can make more progress than the entire industry!
rvnvet70 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:940 Points:812,010 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:56 AM	Ignore rvnvet70 Report Abuse
	Thats just what they are, IDEAS!!
DieselFord All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:574 Points:138,935 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:06:26 AM	Ignore DieselFord Report Abuse
	The need is fixing the dollar. To fix the dollar need to quit spending what we do not have except with credit.
smwhite All-Star Author Indiana Posts:692 Points:277,670 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 9:02:21 AM	Ignore smwhite Report Abuse
	Maybe the government should let these students be in charge of lowering the prices of fuel, and I'll bet they would get it done!
onethumb All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:796 Points:287,705 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:55:38 AM	Ignore onethumb Report Abuse
	These kids have got the right idea.
ArboretumCop Veteran Author Richmond Posts:276 Points:821,990 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:53:52 AM	Ignore ArboretumCop Report Abuse
	Maybe a teenager can do what no one else has done!
Gassie1 Champion Author Akron Posts:3,352 Points:373,660 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:52:12 AM	Ignore Gassie1 Report Abuse
	Wind power, sailing cars :-D
HockeyLady Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:362 Points:749,195 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:47:13 AM	Ignore HockeyLady Report Abuse
	great assignment for the kids--and maybe they in college or after, will actually DO something
dslxcur Veteran Author Seattle Posts:418 Points:146,335 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:46:49 AM	Ignore dslxcur Report Abuse
	Dang! Dare to Dream, Inspire, Teach, Lead, Discover and Reward those who Innovate............
Dipstick1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:766 Points:638,310 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:45:27 AM	Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse
	OK
Lovelee All-Star Author Detroit Posts:818 Points:265,255 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:36:02 AM	Ignore Lovelee Report Abuse
	Is LP as available as gas? Can it be supplied at reasonalble costs? And what about nitrogen emissions? No alternative has reduced this emission
heysailor All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:592 Points:530,160 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:35:21 AM	Ignore heysailor Report Abuse
	Short of ruining ANWR so that some schmuck can fill up his Suburban, anything that helps America stop shipping away its wealth by spending billions of dollars on foreign oil is a good thing.
weenerdog All-Star Author Detroit Posts:541 Points:110,735 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:34:54 AM	Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse
	yes, six years ago Bush said that hydrogen was the future but we didnt do anything about it. just like the previous article, technology is expected for this by 2020.
bug27 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,012 Points:985,375 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:33:33 AM	Ignore bug27 Report Abuse
	Six years ago, President Bush said hydrogen cars were the way of the future.
Zinnoil Champion Author Illinois Posts:10,669 Points:1,322,845 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:32:56 AM	Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse
	Appears to be an excellent high school assignment.
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,976 Points:1,451,915 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:32:29 AM	Ignore cv Report Abuse
	Anything that helps minds to expand should be good.
Gellin Veteran Author Michigan Posts:492 Points:930,965 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:25:09 AM	Ignore Gellin Report Abuse
	good exercise for the brain
brutus All-Star Author Alberta Posts:792 Points:746,355 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:23:46 AM	Ignore brutus Report Abuse
	Kids are smart, some someone will be successful and become instantly rich when they solve the fuel problem.
Captain241 Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:155 Points:167,565 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:21:48 AM	Ignore Captain241 Report Abuse
	Thats what they said about our roads. Look at them, they were better 30 years ago that they are today. The design was simple back than. Don't say we didn't have the traffic we have today because you can still find roads that were built back than and there still driveable. New ideas aren't always better
cheapertvs All-Star Author Richmond Posts:861 Points:932,445 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:20:45 AM	Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse
	Economic realities will burst the bubbles of those inquisitive minds. ".... Any way you look at it you lose."
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:6,105 Points:526,185 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:17:03 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	Develop existing vehicles with much higher gas mileage - 60, 70, 100MPG. Hydrogen is NOT the answer - it uses way too much electricity to produce that hydrogen. For EV's a battery that has a fast recharge and will power the vehicle for 100 miles or more. Produce more and different alternative fuels using NON FOOD sources. Limit then import of OPEC oil. Produce more renewable energy - wind, solar, tidal, hydro, etc. etc.
4warned Veteran Author Michigan Posts:250 Points:426,615 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:11:40 AM	Ignore 4warned Report Abuse
	Energy needs, need to be taught young. Maybe there generation can be saved all the headaches were going through.
Rivermedic Veteran Author Fort Worth Posts:333 Points:60,455 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:08:12 AM	Ignore Rivermedic Report Abuse
	This is not spuring an idea
FunkyPMonkey All-Star Author Detroit Posts:856 Points:283,425 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:06:45 AM	Ignore FunkyPMonkey Report Abuse
	old ideas in a different era....
ledoy Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,265 Points:867,600 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 8:02:02 AM	Ignore ledoy Report Abuse
	great
mochababy70 Veteran Author Nova Scotia Posts:272 Points:675,405 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:55:04 AM	Ignore mochababy70 Report Abuse
	nice story
Helms All-Star Author Fort Worth Posts:556 Points:477,585 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:49:14 AM	Ignore Helms Report Abuse
	Don;t need studies....need results....stuff that can go into production....in one or at most 2-3 years!
rowansysco Veteran Author Louisville Posts:404 Points:159,130 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:43:42 AM	Ignore rowansysco Report Abuse
	wow!!!!!!!!!
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,050 Points:637,210 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:36:35 AM	Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse
	Nice story.
racer3 Champion Author New York Posts:7,093 Points:1,435,375 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 3/29/2008 7:31:21 AM	Ignore racer3 Report Abuse
	never happen

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