Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    8:17 PM

GasBuddy News Article

48
votes
From energy independence to energy exports

Dallas News -- Ken Cohen, Exxon Mobil’s vice president for public and government affairs, chooses his words carefully. So what he had to say recently about the corporation’s outlook of North American energy self-sufficiency rather than energy independence is interesting.

“It seems a bipartisan term, to speak in terms of independence,” he said. “Note that we did not use that term. … The term independence implies isolationism, trade protectionism and, of course, it’s self-defeating.”

Ever since the 1973 Arab oil embargo, energy independence has been at the heart of American political aspirations. Now that it seems possible, the oil and gas industry is trying to change the tune to free trade.

When oil insecurity was paramount, Congress required oil and gas companies to get a “national interest” permit be


Read the Full Article

Submitted Dec 25, 2012 By: skb69sa
Category: Daily News Article Discussions > Topics Add to favorite topics  
Author Topic: From energy independence to energy exports Back to Topics
REPLIES (newest first) Post a Reply
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

Posts:24,330
Points:2,442,140
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 7:43:05 AM

the US has yet to be truly energy independent.
dabayer
Champion Author New Hampshire

Posts:4,464
Points:958,325
Joined:Oct 2005
Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 9:52:57 AM

NO to exporting US crdue and US refined products.

Keep them in the US and lower costs to US consumers.
jrs4125
Champion Author Indiana

Posts:4,993
Points:1,377,365
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:55:28 AM

Drill baby drill and then export all the crude and gas. Good for the US?
drobbbb
Champion Author Maryland

Posts:6,609
Points:1,624,100
Joined:Dec 2010
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:08:21 PM

need to get natural gas as the energy driver in the future
milespergallon
Champion Author Illinois

Posts:12,983
Points:2,722,075
Joined:Feb 2007
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:00:39 PM

We have been energy independent, it's just that we are exporting more!
And, we NEED NATURAL GAS as a source for use to propel our vehicles! Therefore we NEED the slugs running vehicle manufacturing to get off their collect dead butts and start producing what WE NEED!
tankumo
All-Star Author Vancouver

Posts:960
Points:404,970
Joined:Dec 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:20:38 PM

Unfortunately there are those who opppose LNG terminals and pipelines.
gbs1
Champion Author Minnesota

Posts:5,386
Points:1,576,875
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:25:22 PM

We need to be careful with the exports as we still import a large portion of our oil.
cssco
Champion Author Virginia

Posts:10,574
Points:2,543,135
Joined:Feb 2006
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:09:43 PM

The stories keep getting better and better this Christmas Day. Thanks, Rosie Scenario.

[Edited by: cssco at 12/25/2012 1:12:10 PM EST]
mainenightowl
Champion Author Maine

Posts:2,014
Points:641,850
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:01:28 PM

I think we should keep it all for ourselves!
genoist
Veteran Author Orlando

Posts:341
Points:171,070
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:00:45 PM

That's good. Exports can't do anything but good things for our economy.
bigdipperMS
Champion Author Mississippi

Posts:2,789
Points:1,205,290
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:57:33 PM

What other business will not seek out the greatest profit? What is wrong with profit? Without profit this Country would not be as strong and great as it is. Some do not do as well as others but it is a equal opportunity to all. Some fail but a lot more suceed.
nerde
Champion Author Florida

Posts:7,078
Points:1,500,000
Joined:Jul 2009
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:54:53 PM

America first
rjd1608
Champion Author Toledo

Posts:8,704
Points:2,761,855
Joined:Aug 2003
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:54:19 PM

oil companies are going to sell their product for the biggest profit possible
cucamongacurtis
Champion Author San Bernardino

Posts:4,261
Points:1,047,335
Joined:Oct 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:51:04 PM

Drill here, stop shipping jobs overseas.
muquee
Champion Author Harrisburg

Posts:4,455
Points:1,200,335
Joined:Nov 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:50:54 PM

Continue to strive for more.
trekmanKY
Champion Author Kentucky

Posts:4,307
Points:1,138,375
Joined:Mar 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:50:14 PM

Realy?
shireen1
Rookie Author Syracuse

Posts:49
Points:1,189,030
Joined:Jul 2005
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:49:59 PM

kiss4afrog: well said!
arnerator
Champion Author Seattle

Posts:11,520
Points:2,437,840
Joined:Sep 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:23 PM

kiss4afrog is spot on with this. We must keep developing alternative sources. When the oil is finally gine, it's gone for good.
mageetp
Champion Author British Columbia

Posts:6,480
Points:1,430,405
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:16 PM

Good post.
Bobmilan
Champion Author Louisville

Posts:4,580
Points:1,285,000
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:12 PM

Oil/gas breakthroughs are only think keeping economy from total crash.

Enabling the irresponsible spending of the Dems.
mahkokhan
Champion Author British Columbia

Posts:3,780
Points:864,555
Joined:Oct 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:47:56 PM

i think nations and regions must be efficient in their energy distribution and production, which means local production and a great saving in shipping and defense leading to more stable and peaceful political climate!
sawdust1825
Champion Author Illinois

Posts:4,168
Points:1,259,980
Joined:Sep 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:47:14 PM

I agree that until we are no longer importing any oil then consider exporting. But not until then.
Samo1961
Champion Author Los Angeles

Posts:4,000
Points:1,407,650
Joined:Feb 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:53 PM

If supply exceeds the demand at home, only one thing to do, EXPORT.
kiss4afrog
All-Star Author Twin Cities

Posts:898
Points:512,565
Joined:Jan 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:50 PM

It's still a LIMITED resource and all we are doing is squeezing the last bits of energy our present technology will let us. It's NOT energy independence when you're using a limited resource to supply that energy. Independence is when we are using a renewable source to power our lives and relay on oil for the things only oil needs to be used for (chemically).
NanookAK
Champion Author Anchorage

Posts:10,759
Points:2,273,540
Joined:Nov 2007
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:44 PM

We don't have energy independence yet if we are still importing oil and we are.
ss70
Champion Author Detroit

Posts:13,698
Points:2,655,160
Joined:Sep 2005
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:08 PM

time for US to stop exports ... if we have more than enough why are the prices so high.
skysteve1
Champion Author Victoria

Posts:4,697
Points:1,203,865
Joined:Jul 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:45:38 PM

Russia opened its new pipeline today to supply Asia
Lilybird1212
Veteran Author Idaho

Posts:407
Points:626,990
Joined:Oct 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:45:00 PM

Agree with F81M
TAT36
Champion Author Florida

Posts:10,257
Points:2,099,935
Joined:Sep 2009
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:44:43 PM

Interesting how things change but don't change.
THEDodgeman
Champion Author Denver

Posts:11,382
Points:2,756,225
Joined:Apr 2005
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:44:15 PM

keep it here.
atdinut
Champion Author California

Posts:1,617
Points:405,440
Joined:Apr 2012
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:43:35 PM

Instead of exporting so much, we should make sure we are self-sufficient!!
blupupher
Champion Author Houston

Posts:6,896
Points:1,541,755
Joined:Feb 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:43:10 PM

we shall see
Rednix
Champion Author Miami

Posts:9,407
Points:2,098,460
Joined:Jul 2009
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:41:20 PM

We've made a lot of progress recently in oil exploration.
zimowski
Champion Author San Jose

Posts:9,960
Points:2,377,380
Joined:Nov 2007
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:39:45 PM

The Obama administration needs to approve the Keystone pipeline and oil exports.
F81M
Champion Author Indiana

Posts:4,871
Points:1,590,705
Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:39:29 PM

NO exports until we are totally independent.
theWizK
Champion Author Columbus

Posts:1,614
Points:992,935
Joined:May 2007
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:38:17 PM

Whatever...
Kato51
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:7,429
Points:2,197,420
Joined:Jul 2005
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:38:09 PM

Keep it profitable - export.
No1ConMan
Champion Author Memphis

Posts:4,395
Points:1,052,730
Joined:Sep 2005
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:37:07 PM

Hold their feet to the fire, limit exports!
fieldt
Champion Author Lansing

Posts:6,733
Points:1,535,375
Joined:Mar 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:36:54 PM

I can't help but wonder how things would be with an administration that didn't wage war on fossil fuels.
teamsimons
Champion Author South Carolina

Posts:4,027
Points:1,110,335
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:36:33 PM

Isn't trying find a difference between "energy self-sufficiency" and "energy independence" like trying to split a hair? Semantics?

According to this online dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-sufficient
self-sufficient means "Able to provide for oneself without the help of others; independent."

A reverse search on the word independent
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/independent
shows that sufficient is a synonym as well.

So, we don't buy the argument made by the gentleman quoted in the article.

What we need is to what Thomas Jefferson described
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_non-interventionism#No_entangling_alliances_.2819th_century.29
"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

Once we don't have to rely on foreign oil, we will no longer be held captive to their wishes. Of course, once we depend on domestic oil, we're at the mercy of our own.
oppdetcon
Champion Author Ottawa

Posts:3,785
Points:1,268,910
Joined:Feb 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:34:57 PM

Merry Christmas...
dlemma
Champion Author Wyoming

Posts:7,291
Points:2,356,970
Joined:Feb 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:33:31 PM

I don't take anything for granted with Nobama and his administration.
diegotoad
Champion Author Maryland

Posts:5,935
Points:1,448,170
Joined:Jul 2009
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:32:29 PM

Exporting is more profitable so that's what the companies will do.
snarkysmarko
Champion Author Baltimore

Posts:4,322
Points:1,091,635
Joined:Nov 2010
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:32:16 PM

good news for big oil companies
erbyfub
Champion Author Raleigh

Posts:11,824
Points:2,452,905
Joined:Jul 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:31:51 PM

that works
oldiesman
Champion Author New York

Posts:9,569
Points:2,956,755
Joined:May 2006
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:31:01 PM

We don't need ant handouts?
SHEP20715
Champion Author Maryland

Posts:11,974
Points:2,525,765
Joined:Nov 2007
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:28:55 PM

We are finally moving in the right direction
WestDriver
Champion Author Grand Rapids

Posts:2,576
Points:1,230,805
Joined:Oct 2006
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:27:12 PM

There still needs to be concerted effort to devolop more resources, as well as a means to processing oil and gas to provide both for us and to export finished oil products.
joezIN
Champion Author Gary

Posts:4,262
Points:981,555
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:27:06 PM

energy independence should equate to lower pricing..
pricechecker08
Champion Author Ohio

Posts:11,223
Points:2,501,850
Joined:Jan 2008
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:23:20 PM

Souds like double talk to me!
whaboush
Champion Author Richmond

Posts:1,256
Points:800,195
Joined:Nov 2010
Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:23:02 PM

Why are we exporting so much and importing so much?
Post a reply Back to Topics