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From energy independence to energy exports

Dallas News -- Ken Cohen, Exxon Mobil’s vice president for public and government affairs, chooses his words carefully. So what he had to say recently about the corporation’s outlook of North American energy self-sufficiency rather than energy independence is interesting.

“It seems a bipartisan term, to speak in terms of independence,” he said. “Note that we did not use that term. … The term independence implies isolationism, trade protectionism and, of course, it’s self-defeating.”

Ever since the 1973 Arab oil embargo, energy independence has been at the heart of American political aspirations. Now that it seems possible, the oil and gas industry is trying to change the tune to free trade.

When oil insecurity was paramount, Congress required oil and gas companies to get a “national interest” permit be


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 7:43:05 AM

the US has yet to be truly energy independent.
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dabayer
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 9:52:57 AM

NO to exporting US crdue and US refined products.

Keep them in the US and lower costs to US consumers.
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:55:28 AM

Drill baby drill and then export all the crude and gas. Good for the US?
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need to get natural gas as the energy driver in the future
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milespergallon
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:00:39 PM

We have been energy independent, it's just that we are exporting more!
And, we NEED NATURAL GAS as a source for use to propel our vehicles! Therefore we NEED the slugs running vehicle manufacturing to get off their collect dead butts and start producing what WE NEED!
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Unfortunately there are those who opppose LNG terminals and pipelines.
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gbs1
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:25:22 PM

We need to be careful with the exports as we still import a large portion of our oil.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:09:43 PM

The stories keep getting better and better this Christmas Day. Thanks, Rosie Scenario.

[Edited by: cssco at 12/25/2012 1:12:10 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:01:28 PM

I think we should keep it all for ourselves!
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:00:45 PM

That's good. Exports can't do anything but good things for our economy.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:57:33 PM

What other business will not seek out the greatest profit? What is wrong with profit? Without profit this Country would not be as strong and great as it is. Some do not do as well as others but it is a equal opportunity to all. Some fail but a lot more suceed.
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America first
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oil companies are going to sell their product for the biggest profit possible
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Drill here, stop shipping jobs overseas.
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Continue to strive for more.
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Realy?
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:49:59 PM

kiss4afrog: well said!
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:23 PM

kiss4afrog is spot on with this. We must keep developing alternative sources. When the oil is finally gine, it's gone for good.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:16 PM

Good post.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:48:12 PM

Oil/gas breakthroughs are only think keeping economy from total crash.

Enabling the irresponsible spending of the Dems.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:47:56 PM

i think nations and regions must be efficient in their energy distribution and production, which means local production and a great saving in shipping and defense leading to more stable and peaceful political climate!
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:47:14 PM

I agree that until we are no longer importing any oil then consider exporting. But not until then.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:53 PM

If supply exceeds the demand at home, only one thing to do, EXPORT.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:50 PM

It's still a LIMITED resource and all we are doing is squeezing the last bits of energy our present technology will let us. It's NOT energy independence when you're using a limited resource to supply that energy. Independence is when we are using a renewable source to power our lives and relay on oil for the things only oil needs to be used for (chemically).
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:44 PM

We don't have energy independence yet if we are still importing oil and we are.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:46:08 PM

time for US to stop exports ... if we have more than enough why are the prices so high.
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Russia opened its new pipeline today to supply Asia
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Agree with F81M
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:44:43 PM

Interesting how things change but don't change.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:44:15 PM

keep it here.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:43:35 PM

Instead of exporting so much, we should make sure we are self-sufficient!!
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:43:10 PM

we shall see
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:41:20 PM

We've made a lot of progress recently in oil exploration.
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The Obama administration needs to approve the Keystone pipeline and oil exports.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:39:29 PM

NO exports until we are totally independent.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:38:17 PM

Whatever...
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:38:09 PM

Keep it profitable - export.
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Hold their feet to the fire, limit exports!
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I can't help but wonder how things would be with an administration that didn't wage war on fossil fuels.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:36:33 PM

Isn't trying find a difference between "energy self-sufficiency" and "energy independence" like trying to split a hair? Semantics?

According to this online dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/self-sufficient
self-sufficient means "Able to provide for oneself without the help of others; independent."

A reverse search on the word independent
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/independent
shows that sufficient is a synonym as well.

So, we don't buy the argument made by the gentleman quoted in the article.

What we need is to what Thomas Jefferson described
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_non-interventionism#No_entangling_alliances_.2819th_century.29
"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

Once we don't have to rely on foreign oil, we will no longer be held captive to their wishes. Of course, once we depend on domestic oil, we're at the mercy of our own.
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Merry Christmas...
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I don't take anything for granted with Nobama and his administration.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:32:29 PM

Exporting is more profitable so that's what the companies will do.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:32:16 PM

good news for big oil companies
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:31:51 PM

that works
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We don't need ant handouts?
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We are finally moving in the right direction
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:27:12 PM

There still needs to be concerted effort to devolop more resources, as well as a means to processing oil and gas to provide both for us and to export finished oil products.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:27:06 PM

energy independence should equate to lower pricing..
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:23:20 PM

Souds like double talk to me!
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