honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 6:58:17 AM
continuation of destruction of some of the last great environments in a quest for more fuel.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:22:34 AM
AND THE WITCH HUNTS CONTINUE:
Regulation of oil and gas activity should remain squarely under individual state supervision. There is no reason the Feds should be involved in issues the states have already stringently set. All the information is available at the site www.fracfocus.org.
As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.".
They'll continue to chant the thoroughly debunked claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda.
No disclosure of fracturing fluid?? WRONG again... Just take at look around the site www.fracfocus.org, it's ALL right there for the world to see.
And the latest from the purveyors of fear? Insurance!!! Aha, this will be the nail in the trackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co.
So now it's water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed.
You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction.
The most common claim talking point is that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever.
As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater."
The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX.
The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown by 50%.
Oh and the "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process.
How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up.
It is important to rely on facts and the science, not fear-mongering talking points. The shale gas and oil boom is the result of U.S. business innovation and risk-taking. If we let the fear of undocumented pollution kill this boom, we will deserve our fate as a second-class industrial power.
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WanderDan

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:25:04 AM
solar anyone???
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WanderDan

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:00:40 AM
come on people... at what cost energy???
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:25:07 PM
I would hate to see your magnificent land despoiled by Oil Tar. Your health and environment are paramount!
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 6:17:29 AM
So, a few mistakes are now cause for alarm EVERYWHERE? Let em pay the high price if they don't want it...
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 10:58:39 PM
Sympathies and condolences to the wonderful folks of the Newfie Province.
Please watch these buzzards very carefully! Your incredible land is at risk.
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PDQBlues

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 5:48:03 PM
When it's fracking, there is much to fear -- especially the lies and deceptions surrounding the chemicals they use.
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:50:33 AM
isnt that like american cub scouts ?
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pitamon

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:34:10 AM
Do it safely.
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EnviroChemist

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 8:56:37 AM
I hope they find the right balance they are looking for.
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sljbc475

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:53:39 AM
The quest for shale oil and profits.
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METEOR49

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:30:01 AM
we don't need more oil , we have an oversupply of crude and it's not helpng at the pump.
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MaxGasUp

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:20:12 AM
OK.
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prcoqui

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:18:15 AM
Oh boy. Very narroe margin for screw ups.
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tbgasmizer

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:18:02 AM
Newfoundland needs a break,they have nithing and get nothing from the government.
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:17:03 AM
23 billion barrels is a lot of oil. Hard to believe there is that much in the formation in Newfoundland.
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StephenOM

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Ocala
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:11:38 AM
Apparently disinformation and fear mongering is not limited to the US. Hopefully Canadians are not so gullible as Americans....hopefully.
[Edited by: StephenOM at 2/19/2013 7:12:34 AM EST]
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RichWLIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:08:49 AM
The sky is falling!
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Point__man

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:08:42 AM
You think the prices of seafood are high now ;) Let them make any mistakes at all with this project and many will no longer be able to afford fish at the market and possibly not even a fish sandwich at their local junk food drive through ;)
Very dangerous if problems arise. Plenty of sea water to pump in. What to do with the waste ? What to do about the leaks into the sea floor above where they are extracting ? If there are leaks, those sea currents will distribute them quickly through the Northern Atlantic destroying much more than North America's waters.
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fatboy97

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:07:49 AM
ok
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rvn4me

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:07:23 AM
Ressearch of this nature can show whatever you want it to show.
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gobux10

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:05:48 AM
oil oil oil basby
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tekguy

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:05:14 AM
More research is needed before moving forward.
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SnickersDog

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Denver
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:04:28 AM
Drill
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:03:46 AM
I feel sorry for those people, i hope they can buy good water some where there.
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GDAE

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:00:37 AM
"Frack away and be just like the government of the United States, all fracked up."
Ha ha!
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BIGALRPH

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:00:34 AM
I don't like fracking.
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97PearlCat

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Tulsa
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:58:19 AM
Lie lie and delay.
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jimraehl

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Utah
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:57:59 AM
More enironmentalist propaganda
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QueenMother

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:56:36 AM
More research is needed before moving forward.
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JamesCalvin

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Lancaster
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:56:11 AM
OUPS!
That wasn't expected now, was it?
[Edited by: JamesCalvin at 2/19/2013 6:56:26 AM EST]
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scottydoesnt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:55:05 AM
I smell a new reality show.
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jay93LA

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:54:58 AM
drill drill safely
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rocket_ron

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:54:45 AM
ok
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:54:32 AM
would you rather hug a tree or be warm in the winter ?
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PittSlovak

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:54:31 AM
Fracking - the latest environmental boogieman.
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Pond10

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:54:28 AM
ok
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VetteFan

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:53:29 AM
A lot of us are concerned about the long-term effects.
[Edited by: VetteFan at 2/19/2013 6:53:48 AM EST]
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plbell627

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:52:37 AM
We need the oil so keep looking. Hopefully that will help us not having to buy from OPEC.
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friday21

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:51:09 AM
Ok
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jdhelm

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:49:58 AM
dont frack in my back yard
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fillerupyeoww

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:47:56 AM
If you're worried about it, don't do it. You have that right, or you should have.
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11SilveradoMN

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:46:55 AM
More Fracking?
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bumpygas

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:46:22 AM
Frack away and be just like the government of the United States, all fracked up.
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JLSindy

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:46:15 AM
Others seem more concerned than we do here - they want us to go forward but when it comes to their back yard - they are being much more cautious.
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Hi1

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:45:51 AM
I wish they would do more research on fracking.
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twt

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:44:46 AM
More "Professional" boy scouts.
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icer06

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:44:16 AM
And probably for good reason
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fightbigoil71

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:42:35 AM
Lots of oil to be found
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