honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2012 7:40:36 AM
would be nice if they'd be cutting EtOH out of the fuel altogether. Yea, pipe dream, but still...
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 8:02:22 AM
People may be driving much less with Barry's (aka – vampire/ghost hunter) crappy, lousy, lack of adequate jobs economy, either they are driving higher MPG vehicles OR driving more EV's and Inbreds. But, less gasoline is being consumed and less ethanol is needed for the federally required gasoline mix. No Fuel from Food! The weather has an affect on the amount of corn grown. The higher the temperature and lack of rain, the less corn there will be and the higher the price for corn. Higher priced corn is also from the ethanol producers driving up the price of corn with their demand. Not as much ethanol is produced, this can be a good thing! Produce more alternative fuels from plants, WVO (waste vegetable oil), the bio mass or the waste stream (bio diesel). Renewable energy from Solar, Wind, Hydro.,Thermal, Tidal and Nuclear for EV's and plug in Inbreds. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 7:43:48 AM
How ironic... shouldn't this be telling us something?
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DrCashFlow

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 7:13:28 AM
Mandate ethanol out of gasoline
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jetlagAK

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:25:38 AM
Another scam and waste of taxes. Anyone else 2012!
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:22:41 AM
Be nice if they would shut down all the ethanol making plants and stop putting it in our gasoline.
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jimedB

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:07:21 AM
Great. So now not only have they driven the cost of corn up by using it to make ethanol to water down our gas but by shuting down production they will also drive up the price of the ethanol too. Before they started adding this stuff to our gas I got 44+MPG highway and now with their "Clean" addatives I am lucky to get 32 to 35MPG. Seens to me this is just a way to get us to buy more gas so they can generate more tax revenue without having to raise the tax.
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cupboy

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:01:43 AM
Where can I get more info on this?: the tax that has recently been placed on E-free gasoline
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:01:16 AM
Good, I would like them to stop production of ethanol. jrsva has it exactly right!
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:01:08 AM
The requirement for ethanol in fuel should be ended!!! Corn is better for food or livestock feed.
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cwashi3324

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 12:00:02 AM
cool
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grandamgt1

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:59:31 PM
id rather have 'plain' gas anyway. too bad this just means the price of blended gas will no doubt go up.
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n3tbc

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:59:27 PM
Ok
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:56:20 PM
Right idea, wrong reason. They should be stopping ethanol production because ethanol is a junk fuel used to contaminate good gasoline. Congress must repeal the regulations requiring the blending of ethanol with gasoline and also repeal the tax that has recently been placed on E-free gasoline. This tax causes those fortunate enough to have E0 available to pay 20-30¢ more per gallon, an unnecessary and artificially inflated price.
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MahopacJack

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:55:53 PM
And the high corn prices were the result of...... ?
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dabbadu

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:55:36 PM
High time.
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:55:01 PM
Ha Ha. I hope the ethanol producers go broke.
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:54:57 PM
Success breeds some problems. Once the heat wave is over, prices will drop and plants can restart.
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tidalwave3

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:53:49 PM
Make popcorn not ethanol :)
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GLCSHADOW

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:52:52 PM
Dump ethanol. Bad idea and getting worse as time goes by.
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69Bonne

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Gary
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:52:41 PM
Whey do we need it anyway? Just to support corn? Remember when more corn was being used for Ethanol, jacking up demand, and higher food prices.
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Taurus1

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:52:40 PM
corn prices go up & less gas purchased.....hummmmmmmm.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:47:42 PM
no food for fuel
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gumbyrex

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:45:10 PM
Definitely a step in the right direction. Keep the plants idle forever.
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Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:44:32 PM
Ethanol was a transitional fuel.
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TheHermit

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Maine
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:40:24 PM
I agree with the Darkknight
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csblesson

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:40:23 PM
Ok, USA will grow, brazil will starve
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:40:07 PM
Ethanol is a losing proposition.
Subsidies are gone so profit - at expense of US taxpayers - is also gone.
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:39:05 PM
Good news
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jlisk1970_us

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:37:27 PM
always something.
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:36:38 PM
Not good when chops are over $14 for #100...
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JimL1

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:34:55 PM
Now if the Republican congress would just repeal the law requiring ethanol in gasoline instead of Whining about ObamaCare.
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darkknight1

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:32:53 PM
Wish they'd do away with all ethanol in gas
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AKmailman

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:29:56 PM
old news, anyway, corn is for eating not for fuel
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MRHONEST

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:29:55 PM
SO!
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IrishCowboy

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Fort Wayne
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:29:53 PM
It's too bad they're only doing it because the corn prices are high. They should be cutting back production because it's a stupid idea to burn our food for fuel.
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ace12012

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:29:37 PM
hope ethanol gas goes away.
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big_mac64

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:26:59 PM
I read this same story by the same source yesterday....
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KhelbenArunson

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:24:46 PM
Well perhaps they should make it more cost effective? or come up with a cheap alternative fuel.
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Wildman14

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:23:50 PM
Shouldn't have been using corn to begin with.
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:19:12 PM
Thank goodness this garbage isn't in Diesel...
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hank1326

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:18:07 PM
NO MORE ETHANOL PLEASE!! Time for more cost efficient domestic energy options.
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Feud

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:17:25 PM
Yup.
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BigDenOH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:12:44 PM
Wow
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mgune9

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:12:15 PM
get rid of ethanol and EPA
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gavinON

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:12:05 PM
hmmm
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:09:28 PM
Good news! The more idle corn ethanol plants... the better.
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:09:12 PM
Corn is people food. Use natural gas not corn to fuel cars.
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:07:37 PM
They are the ones who have caused the high prices.
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nigelb

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 11:07:30 PM
No one should be surprised that ethanol makers are controlling the supply and price by controlling production!
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