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Electric-vehicle drivers outfit homes with specialized chargers

Eagle-Tribune -- Fremont, Calif., resident Shinya Fujimoto bought his Nissan Leaf during heady times for electric-vehicle fans.

It was spring 2011, when there was so much anticipation over a shipment of these all-electric vehicles from Japan to the West Coast that someone climbed aboard a chopper, shot photos of the cars on shipboard on their way to Southern California and posted them on a blog popular among plug-in vehicle owners.

“These people were crazy,” said Fujimoto, who admits to being such an enthusiast that he keeps Excel spreadsheets to illustrate the savings his Leaf has brought over the gasoline-powered vehicle he drove before. (It’s been about $100 to $150 per month, he said.)

When Fujimoto’s shiny baby-blue Nissan finally arrived in July 2011 — after delays caused by Japan’s tsunami — he a


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lesndave
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 10:29:56 PM

Ok
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Good
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:18:18 PM

Just transferring $ from big oil to power companies.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:10:23 PM


Your own power station at home. Cool.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:50:37 PM

335d1: Home chargers are a necessity if you own an EV.

Not really. You can charge with 120v...it just takes about twice as long. Most people can charge for 8-12 hrs at night. With 120v you get ~1 mile of charge every 10 minutes. Or 6 miles in an hour. In 8 hrs that is almost 50 miles which is enough for a 25 mile commute. About half of commuters go less than this.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 7:52:28 AM

Part of owning an EV vehicle.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 6:55:26 AM

Home chargers are a necessity if you own an EV.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 6:54:38 AM

2x
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 6:47:26 AM

At least they do not give any money to the petroleum companies.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 6:04:57 AM

When he figures savings, does he include the extra cost of the car? The cost of installing the charger? The cost of the electricity? How about extra time to recharge while away from home - the charge for you to sit there and watch it?
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 5:55:44 AM

Wow what savings(not)
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 5:00:36 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 4:20:09 AM

As EVs take over personal transportation there will be more private home charging stations. There have always been "early adopters" with every new technology and there have always been the "nay sayers".

[Edited by: leeac at 2/25/2013 4:22:42 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 4:13:23 AM


TOTAL life cost for ALL expenses associated with any niche electric vehicle is the only way to compare cost of ownership between vehicles
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:54:25 AM

It will take about 25 months at $100.00 per month to pay for the chargers. These clowns are looking at a new shinned penny. What they have to remember is the day that penny gets old and has to have the battery replaced. Then they penny will get pretty dull when they buy a battery, have it installed and pay for the disposal of the old one to the tune of $3,000 to $14,000.00. They also should look for the penny to get rough around the edges when the weather turns either real hot or real cold. It gets rougher still as the battery ages and loses holding storage capacity in the Amperes department just like an cell phone or flash light battery wearing out and getting duller and driving distance is lost.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:52:30 AM

I hope you can't over charge the battery and burn the place down..
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:44:45 AM

Alrighty then Shinya.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:30:09 AM

Not a big deal to install something like this.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:24:51 AM

NOT a good idea !!!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:21:40 AM

Plug in owners
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:52:25 AM

Fujimoto? Nissan? Sounds like someone forgot he was an American, and as such, should be buying American made. THAT is EXACTLY why we are in a recession that will last years no matter who is president.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:48:17 AM

we need our coal mines
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:48:08 AM

Another sign of the times
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:47:58 AM

What happens when the power goes out? Someone hits an electric pole, a transformer blows, etc.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:47:26 AM

I don't have to worry about home chargers.
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Probably burn down your home while you sleep
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:41:30 AM

hahahahahahaha how much diesel did it take to ship the car over here.and what power source is producing your electric to charge the leaf.........and?who paid for the electric charging stations all over cali forn i a.annnnd?how much more did the leaf cost to purchase compared to it's fuel driven counterpart.......the only way these cars could be green is if the home owner house is powered by wind,solar,geo thermal.hydro electric is powered by a system we all have to pay for.so not really green/self sufficient/less costly .just wait til president obama and the epa cause coal mines to be shut in......then electricity will shoot through the roof. while protecting some bugs.:)
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:38:46 AM

very informative
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The fruit & nuts left coast, typical!!
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Left coast
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:33:04 AM

Very good informational article
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:27:19 AM

good
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:23:25 AM

Hey, these vehicles are only going to get better! Remember your first personal computer? Electric vehicles are probably at that stage now; Give them five to ten more years and I think everyone will be surprised!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:23:10 AM

Nobody can get excited over coal burning vehicles like a "greenie".
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A good information article.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:07:47 AM

EVs make sense for big commuters... but for non-auto commuters driving less than 5,000 a year, tough to justify the cost...
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:02:30 AM

On Feb 25, 2013 12:45:27 AM, wshutton wrote:

>I have wondered if it would be better to charge a vehicle
>directly with DC power from the solar panels.

The problem is you have to have tightly regulated voltage and current to properly charge a battery.

I'm fairly sure that you can go down from higher to lower voltages with relatively little loss but definitely not the other way around.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:59:50 AM

I don't know if the EV is as good as Mr. Fujimoto claims, but they are definitely worth taking a look at. Especially considering the way fuel prices keep rising.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:59:14 AM

Interesting to see was people are doing
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:57:16 AM

Thats nice... until they spontaneously combust, or the battery needs a $3000.00 replacement. The costs far out weigh the savings in fuel not to mention the safety factors both sitting still (poof) or in traffic (crash).
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:55:42 AM

Very informative article!!! Points out things to be considered and predicts what a customer will face when the purchase of an EV is made. Good read!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:55:38 AM

Come a hot summer when all the air conditioners go on in California, don't be surprised if there will be power outages due to all the added strain on the electric grid.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:52:06 AM

Only way to go IF your going to own an EV is a home Charger system.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:50:32 AM


They work just fine in all our states vernsimpson. Who has been feeding you that nonsense, the API!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:50:14 AM

just a little crazy are they not?But the vehicles are giving many people real savings while showing that alternatives are viable.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:45:41 AM

THis would be great
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:45:27 AM

I have wondered if it would be better to charge a vehicle directly with DC power from the solar panels. Though the power loss over distance is greater for DC current, there must be some power loss in converting solar DC to AC and then back to DC to charge the cars batteries. I wonder what the balance point is? And with one DC to AC conversion from the solar panel/ electric car circuitry to the home the overall costs should be less.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:45:02 AM

They will not work in the colder states!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:44:14 AM

Need the dedicated circuit,no matter what.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:43:41 AM

ok
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not for a doit-yourself projcts
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