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Canadians pay more than Americans for Canadian- made cars

CBC -- Consumer advocates say the Competition Bureau should investigate why Canadians are paying thousands of dollars more than Americans for vehicles manufactured here in Canada.

CBC News looked at the relative prices of 26 models made in Ontario by the five big automakers — Ford, GM, Chrysler, Honda and Toyota — and found that in 20 cases, the models cost thousands of dollars more to buy in Ontario than in the United States, including Hawaii.

Based on the manufacturer's suggested retail prices, the two-wheel drive Toyota Rav4 would cost $22,650 in Honolulu, with an additional charge for freight and pre-delivery inspection (PDI) of $810.

A resident in Woodstock, Ont., however, would pay $24,865, plus a freight and PDI charge of $1,465, for the same model, despite the Rav4 being manuf

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Submitted Jun 13, 2012 By: derKraut

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:03:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse CdnL: thanks for the Canadian perspective. Something lots of folks in the US seem too often to forget.
CdnLynx Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,020 Points:523,005 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 12:36:31 AM Ignore CdnLynx Report Abuse Size of our respective countries is also a factor; America has approx 313 million people, compared to the Cdn population of approx 35 mil. The American tax base is much larger to pay for your gov't projects; granted some of your projects are far more expensive, particularly defense. Yes, we have gov't health car plan; however this is really a none issue, (for lack of a better term). Canada is a democracy, just like America, same as England and Australia. If Cdn's paid for non-gov't plans (private) as in the U.S, we would be paying far more in health care; taking even more money out of our pockets then at present. Some posters on this site, seem to be fixated on the fact we are a socialist state due to fact of our health care. Sorry, it's my personal belief that if America had a universal plan for the health of your nation you would eventually be a healthier nation. Presently the greed of American health care providers are bleeding money out of Americans. Overall we pay significantly less money for a extremely good and robust health system. Some here are scared with their preconceived concepts of communism and/or socialism and it is colouring their thoughts and comments. Canada as a small population must pay to sustain this vast democratic society. Thankfully we do not have to pay for such a large military debt that has been incurred since the WWII, as in America.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:10,891 Points:2,130,630 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 12:22:40 AM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse Much of that destination charge has to do with distance from a set point without regard to actual transport distance or place of manufacture or assembly. We in Wisconsin dairy farmers deal with that wrt milk prices which are set at so much per mile from Eau Claire, WI even if the milk was produced just 5 miles away. The rate itself has no bearing on shipping costs as they are much lower than the rate used. So why do farmers on the West Coast get paid so much more for their milk than those in Wisconsin? The rate should be equal to the average transport cost for the distance it truly has to move. Else everyone gets the same base price.
kusanagisama All-Star Author Texas Posts:708 Points:191,525 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 12:04:47 AM Ignore kusanagisama Report Abuse Ok
kcboy Champion Author Utah Posts:3,963 Points:1,506,825 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 12:02:14 AM Ignore kcboy Report Abuse That is a bad deal to me. I would go to the U.S. to buy in that case.
032946 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:19,850 Points:4,042,095 Joined:Oct 2001	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 12:00:37 AM Ignore 032946 Report Abuse OK
PetroScopper Champion Author Houston Posts:6,617 Points:1,549,000 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:59:23 PM Ignore PetroScopper Report Abuse The Canadians are almost always paying too much.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,518 Points:3,077,750 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:55:11 PM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse Whenever I complain about the amount of taxes I pay, I think about how much worse the Canadians have it, and how really fortunate we are here in the good old U.S. of A.
crazycow2332 Champion Author Nashville Posts:1,217 Points:255,080 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:52:38 PM Ignore crazycow2332 Report Abuse ok
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,015 Points:1,311,170 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:51:08 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse They have to pay for their socialist government.
letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,240 Points:666,700 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:50:10 PM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse Who's the greedest? Manufacturers or dealers
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,777 Points:642,860 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:49:25 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Pays for your socialized medicine.
bugc Champion Author Boston Posts:15,043 Points:3,003,165 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:47:54 PM Ignore bugc Report Abuse Very interesting............
LostToo Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,392 Points:975,315 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:45:45 PM Ignore LostToo Report Abuse Those Canooks better get all over the big 5 and kick some butt. I would not stand for that sort of treatment either. That's just wrong. Don't put up with it Canada. Especially because they screw you on gas up there too. Selling by the Liter, What the hell is that about? Everybody knows gas is to be sold by the Gallon.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:43:31 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse We already know this and feel for them. We are also having to pay more than we should for Diesel especially in the USA because they are Exporting large amounts out of the USA.
firasatali Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,090 Points:567,600 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:41:39 PM Ignore firasatali Report Abuse yes
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,222 Points:816,820 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:39:44 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse its called , do the homework. ehh
technoj Champion Author San Francisco Posts:3,009 Points:563,070 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:38:38 PM Ignore technoj Report Abuse ok
mustachian Rookie Author Milwaukee Posts:3 Points:101,810 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:38:27 PM Ignore mustachian Report Abuse ok
USAv8tor Veteran Author Long Island Posts:348 Points:138,665 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:36:57 PM Ignore USAv8tor Report Abuse I'm glad I'm American living in the U.S.. i don't want to be anywhere else.
Goofoff Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,882 Points:2,177,200 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:33:01 PM Ignore Goofoff Report Abuse I read this article...
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,686 Points:1,636,220 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:28:14 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse Do they still pay less for prisciptionx?
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,794 Points:1,841,500 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:28:02 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Interesting. Sometimes I feel that with some American made products too.
Crumbfel Champion Author Virginia Posts:11,554 Points:2,160,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:26:47 PM Ignore Crumbfel Report Abuse That's not right
grandamgt1 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,336 Points:1,238,375 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:24:22 PM Ignore grandamgt1 Report Abuse Apples and Oranges. Two very different countries. Two very different economies.
DriverofRed Champion Author Calgary Posts:2,173 Points:411,885 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:23:48 PM Ignore DriverofRed Report Abuse that sucks, bloody taxes
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:21:42 PM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse that stinks.
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,988 Points:460,030 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:21:26 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse Yea, it SHOULD be investigated. And while you're at it, don't stop with vehicles - investigate why we pay more for everything here in Canada, including groceries. People who live anywhere near the border here cross for everything from groceries to vet services for their pets! I know a contractor here who buys all his building supplies stateside and saved $80,000 last year!
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,344 Points:1,800,840 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:21:16 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse We pay more for everything: cars, gas, electronics, books, greeting cards, stuff in Walmart, you name it. The cars thing is a real piss off, especially when Hawaiians can buy a car made in Ontario, cheaper than someone in Ontario.
montytexas Champion Author Houston Posts:2,896 Points:1,410,330 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:21:04 PM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Drive south and save money....is it still cheaper in Mexico ??
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,719 Points:355,115 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:19:42 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Very interesting. I'd be pissed off too.
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,293 Points:1,093,810 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:16:07 PM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Oh well.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,846 Points:1,611,275 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:16:00 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “gas prices?” What sort of a “comment” is that??? Do you somehow feel that this article is inappropriate for Newsville. If so, please read the posting guidelines.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,568 Points:1,614,110 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:15:22 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse More taxes and surcharges imposed by Canada?
livedream Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,674 Points:753,110 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:15:11 PM Ignore livedream Report Abuse Hmmm.... The Canadians have a legitimate gripe -- The price disparity is clearly not fair. It remains to be seen what they'll do about it.....
herbiepopnecker Champion Author British Columbia Posts:13,596 Points:2,505,355 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:14:38 PM Ignore herbiepopnecker Report Abuse We're just used to getting hosed. It's not taxes. Corporate taxes are lower here. There is no manufacturing tax. When they sell the car to the dealer, all the taxes paid for the parts (right down to the tax paid on office staples) is rebated to the manufacturer. But notice how it costs $1465 to deliver it down the street and only $810 to deliver it to Hawaii. The gouging has been going on for years.
FollowTheLitre Sophomore Author London Posts:115 Points:521,350 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:12:51 PM Ignore FollowTheLitre Report Abuse Costs for manufacturing in Canada are irrelevant when you consider that the same car sells for up to thousands less in the US. In other words, if it costs x amount of dollars to produce, then the manufacturers would have to retail it for y. They would NOT take a loss by selling it cheaper in the US. Therefore, the US prices are profitable. In that case, there is no other factor to determine than plain greed. Toyota Prius is another eye-gouger that's a lot more expensive here in Canada.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,917 Points:1,574,005 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:11:13 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse and their dollar is stronger now
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,300 Points:1,636,970 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:10:53 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse WE LOVE YOU...YOU CRAZY CANADIANS
DTroytNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:366 Points:62,510 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:09:40 PM Ignore DTroytNC Report Abuse Interesting, how do salaries compare for similar workers? Do Canadian workers make more than US workers in the same category? It does seem "wrong" that someone living next to the factory has to pay more than someone halfway round the world, especially considering the expense involved in shipping a car. Greed?
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:09:11 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse that doesn't surprise me at all
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,349 Points:2,256,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:08:20 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse Interesting - this is obviously a product of an imperfect market
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,294 Points:596,645 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:08:17 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
jad1960 Champion Author Gary Posts:1,540 Points:401,700 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:07:37 PM Ignore jad1960 Report Abuse It comes down to greed greed and more greed.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,061 Points:1,730,260 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:06:48 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse gas prices?
Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,740 Points:3,005,945 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:04:17 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse THE POINT IS????
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,615 Points:3,493,730 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:04:11 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Gotta pay for those socialist plans (e.g. universal medical, etc.).
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,795 Points:817,360 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:04:06 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse More government fees at work...
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,287 Points:1,558,440 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:02:44 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Yep gotta pay the Socialist gubmint...lots...
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,079 Points:1,390,785 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 11:02:24 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Sounds like a ripoff to me.