my2002m

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Tulsa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:56:38 PM
How does this impact our gas prices?
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my3sons

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 8:23:08 PM
good for them
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 4:45:40 PM
quoting...
We are living in a world economy. ----
How's that working for us?
You do mean the world economy that is broke, right?
The dominoes have already fallen. They just haven't told us yet.
Greeks are us.
---- quoting again...
Reduce. Reuse. Recycle.
Conserve fossil fuels and seek and support clean alternatives & research. ---- I agree. Do all you can.
Meanwhile, realize it is much larger than we are. ----
Take your own seat over there in the political forum - plenty are available, you say.
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teafortwo

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 4:30:01 PM
Finger pointing and name calling does little to contribute to this discussion. BTW, there is a Buy one Get one FREE sale over in the POLITICAL FORUM. Plenty of seats still available.
We are living in a world economy. The resources to make our favorite toys come from all over the planet. Where do you think all of that iron ore, alumina, lead, zinc and coal gets sent to? And what is it used for? Apply thinking cap NOW.
The actions of a few greedy individuals has changed how the world does business.
No man is an island. A simple phrase that is particularly pertinent to todays economic problems. We are living in an era of a world economy that is intricately interwoven and interdependent. If one goes down, the ripple effects are far reaching. Think of dominoes falling.
We have all witnessed small local businesses going out of business since this mess started. Think of that .... only on a MUCH larger scale. World leaders are working together in an effort to avoid a total economic collapse.
Alcoa Aluminum is just one company. Or is it? Can you think of anything you use that is made from aluminum? Think beyond your favorite brew. Maybe to something you drive? or cook with? Sit on? Live in & look through? Fly in? Maybe even "google" upon?
Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?
Reduce. Reuse. Recycle.
Conserve fossil fuels and seek and support clean alternatives & research.
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ops3

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 4:25:04 PM
Australia - No nukes, no guns, no electricity!
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 4:19:11 PM
Aussies must adjust. Greenies know best.
Just ask them.
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BobbyVA

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 3:33:16 PM
Ask Obama, he's giving money away like its going out of style, and maybe it will at this rate of spending.
[Edited by: BobbyVA at 3/21/2010 3:34:14 PM EST]
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 3:12:59 PM
Well, then Australians know where money should be placed or invested to take care of things, just as we the people know what needs to be done here. Only thing is that those at the top won't do what we the people need to be done; not here in the U.S., not in Australia, not in China, not anywhere for the most part. Yeah, there's some good people in office and politics, but I can't think of many; and Obama nor Bush nor Clinton would be among them, nor Pelosi, Frank or others.
[Edited by: LanguageMan1 at 3/21/2010 3:17:28 PM EST]
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BKool

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:34:38 PM
Australia is broke, the United States is broke. The entire planet followed
our lead in using fiat money or the free money concept. In the history of
the world, fiat money has never worked. Nations use this policy and then
suffer economic collapse. Why? People who do not know world history or buy
into rewritten history that started with the end of the 19th century make
history repeat itself. Most of the nations of the world are broke and now,
the time is ripe for the despots to take over beginning with the biggest
dog on the porch, the United States of America.
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:28:29 PM
Is the USA going down a simular road? Does the USA have to significantly improve its electric infrastructure? We haven't had any problems the last few years, but if electric cars start selling that may cause a problem with the increased demand.
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HailstormCA

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:23:22 PM
Don't they print their own money. That's what Obama's been doing here.
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:20:26 PM
We need more oil refining capacity in the US and more drilling off our shores.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:18:46 PM
with less than one percent interest paid; but thirtynine percent interest charged; can anybody see why there isn't much money to loan?
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Metroman

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:17:30 PM
Talk to China they seem to have all the money lately
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:17:18 PM
Pres. Obama just gave his Brazilian friends at Petrobras over $2 billion to aid their offshore oil drilling. Petrobras is the world's 8th largest oil, company, owned almost solely by George Soros, major contributor to Pres Obama and the Dem. Party. But our wonderful Pres. will kick anyone else to the curb because they don't suit is fancy, including Australia, Israel or even the wishes of the American people. How's that "hope and change" looking now?
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WCCurtis

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:14:17 PM
China probably will be happy to help with the Trillion U.S. Dollars that they have.
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BM4225

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:12:34 PM
Well Obama, and company have already spent over 450 million on wind farms, the only problem it created jobs in Europe, not here. Now China wants around the same amount for their wind turbines for a wind farm that they are going to build in Texas. So they want to collect more taxes from us to send it to other countries, while our people our unemployed.
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TBRR

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:05:33 PM
obummer only wants to help his Muslim friends that take the money and kick our butts
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TAT36

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:03:19 PM
Is his another to big to fail we will have to bail out?
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LoneGuy

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:03:06 PM
Maybe Australia is beginning to build more urban populous. They have always been so much wilderness.
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:02:43 PM
Looks like Australia forgot to do some advanced planning and was more interested in gross income to the country. I see they export COAL, why not use it to make electricity right at home?
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Asbury09

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:01:52 PM
Shh... don't let Obama know, he will start the presses again
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NavyEOD

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 2:01:49 PM
I'm sure they will make it.
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LocalSpyGuy

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:58:14 PM
must have infrastructure to suppport growing population
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RockCity

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:57:37 PM
Sounds about right, we don't want to spend money on our own people, so lets spend it on our foreign pals.
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rippinusoff

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:57:30 PM
They need oilfields
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amearly

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:56:31 PM
With all the money where going to save with this healthcare bill we can afford to bailk than out too.
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2907

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:55:08 PM
Obama will loan them the money.
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:54:01 PM
This is not unique to Australia. This is a global issue!!!
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Iversonfan

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:50:41 PM
im sure they will work it out without our help .. we have enough problems of our own these days
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imadriver

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:49:47 PM
Australia's rich cultural heritage is that of a "can do" attitude in spite of what opinion other nations may hold. I have no doubt that the nation will continue to thrive. If, indeed, assistance is required from a foreign source, let's hope that the Obama administration does not miss an opportunity to help a proven friend.
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Skipper52

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:48:39 PM
And guess who they want to get the money from? The old US tax payer.
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oldosc8

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:47:00 PM
At least Australia wants to do something about it unlike the US.
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PADI

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:46:02 PM
92 Billion over the next decade, means only 9.2 billion per year. It doesn't sound quite as expensive that way.
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ED6

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:44:50 PM
It needs aid from US.
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snewwee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:40:23 PM
The Aussies do it better!
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balljars

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:36:11 PM
Just remember no food for fuel.
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kingpin6

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:34:43 PM
Good luck to the Aussies!
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Jeff1944

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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:29:53 PM
So Australia will work on their own to solve their problem or will someone from China invest in Australia's infrastructure?
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FlyNFool

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:29:53 PM
Maybe Obama will give it to them.
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Valricoslash

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:23:25 PM
Go nuclear.
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sit

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:21:15 PM
Obama will give it to 'em.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:18:57 PM
Ken2OD wrote:
>What makes anybody think that the USA electrical grid is >any better? We have several states right now that are >experiencing rolling blackouts as the norm.
Which states are experiencing rolling blackouts?
Google News doesn't seem to know of any rolling blackouts.
California had some a while back, but that was the result of dysfunctional state regulation. (Good old Enron at it again... but when they tried the same stunt in their home state of Texas they got fined.) They had one day in Texas where it happened, but the regulators told the power generators it was going to be a good day for maintenance and they had an unexpected temperature spike.
[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 3/21/2010 1:21:13 PM EST]
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Patch44

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:16:12 PM
I guess this will increas prices at our local pumps?
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jb107

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:13:50 PM
Don't worry Obama will give you the money.
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Cruiser340

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:11:02 PM
Well if it needs to be done, do it, patches only last so long and then it's time to fix right and replace at a higher cost.
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Sam195

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:07:47 PM
Welcome to the club.
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:03:27 PM
so why isn't the US over there bidding on getting some of the work?
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SSchmidty

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:02:04 PM
The truth is pig-oil is not part of our collective future ... only our past!
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 1:01:01 PM
Don't we all?
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