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Audi to build new hydrogen and natural gas production facility

Hydrogen Fuel News -- Audi reveals plans for new fuel production facility in Germany

The auto industry has become enthralled with hydrogen fuel. Most of the world’s major automakers, such as Daimler, Toyota, and Hyundai, are currently developing a new generation of vehicles that are equipped with hydrogen fuel cells. These companies have plans to commercialize these vehicles beginning in 2013. Hydrogen-powered vehicles are not the only thing the auto industry is interested in, in terms of hydrogen fuel. German automaker Audi has revealed plans for a new hydrogen fuel production facility that is expected to be built in Germany.

New facility will generate synthetic natural gas from hydrogen fuel and CO2

Facility to produce enough fuel to keep 1,500 Audi vehicles running

Natural gas vehicles may have a future

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Submitted Dec 28, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,571 Points:1,949,775 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 7:58:12 PM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse This isn't developing very fast.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 8:02:09 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse good for Germany where energy innovation has always been big.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,665 Points:3,106,590 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 11:17:00 AM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse More practical for European countries that don't have the massive travel expanses of the U.S..
otherdave Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,535 Points:1,296,860 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 6:55:15 AM Ignore otherdave Report Abuse Good for Germany.
millerin Champion Author Orlando Posts:2,332 Points:487,315 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 6:25:34 AM Ignore millerin Report Abuse nice
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,369 Points:344,185 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 1:05:12 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Interesting. Germans are good at innovating. Don't see this as a major player at all however.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,681 Points:689,900 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:16:06 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Will it be cost effective to produce synthetic natural gas from hydrogen fuel and CO2?
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,446 Points:1,558,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:14:09 AM Ignore OGW Report Abuse They can have it! Natural gas is a poor fuel for running vehicles.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,633 Points:1,537,310 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:09:51 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Interesting that they are gonna produce natural gas. Does not sound very natural to me.
Buffalo Joe Champion Author Alberta Posts:8,729 Points:2,536,310 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:07:35 AM Ignore Buffalo Joe Report Abuse Will it be successful?
Doomsday64 All-Star Author Austin Posts:905 Points:353,350 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:06:51 AM Ignore Doomsday64 Report Abuse cool
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:10,430 Points:2,769,420 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:06:33 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse What will the stuff cost and what other maintenance costs will exist on this type of vehicle that uses this fuel?
UpSol7 Champion Author Augusta Posts:1,709 Points:784,625 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:06:26 AM Ignore UpSol7 Report Abuse Enjoy your holiday travel
FusionCa All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:927 Points:575,660 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:03:37 AM Ignore FusionCa Report Abuse Sounds Good.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,294 Points:1,649,905 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:03:30 AM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse Just more childish nonsense, nastiness, and name calling from clermont... Aviator Rob.
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:5,519 Points:1,497,450 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:02:43 AM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse good luck with this one
cheaper0ON Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,123 Points:425,755 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:02:13 AM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Interesting.
Beaveronparade Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,164 Points:660,255 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:00:28 AM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse Interesting article!
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,294 Points:1,649,905 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:59:12 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse If you had bothered to read the above Nemo, it is being done in Germany! Please take the time to read first and spout later. It is because, unlike fossil fuels, hydrogen is an abundant and renewable form of energy. The NG will not last more than this century.
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:6,298 Points:1,303,435 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:57:42 PM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse Good stuff.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:440,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:56:24 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse The technology is interesting but the problem of where to get the hydrogen still remains. It's too energy intensive to get it from water. Makes more sense to just use that electricity to charge electric vehicles. The most cost effective way is to reform natural gas but it might be more cost effective to just run a regular internal combustion engine off of CNG. Plus, hydrogen has the same problem as CNG when it comes to storing it in pressurized fuel tanks but hydrogen requires even greater pressure than CNG.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,164 Points:1,340,880 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:53:09 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse "New facility will generate synthetic natural gas from hydrogen fuel and CO2" it is extremely expensive to do this, and why, when the U.S. is sitting on an ocean of natural gas?
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,400 Points:615,595 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:52:59 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Good for them... We will see how this works out...
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,944 Points:1,871,150 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:52:09 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Big deal.
unemployed58 Veteran Author Montreal Posts:281 Points:72,990 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:51:02 PM Ignore unemployed58 Report Abuse kind of late
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:440,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:50:36 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Once again, @clermont40miles, is the King of Denial, and not of that river in Egypt. You really don't think that people are capable of trashing the planet, do you?
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,440 Points:546,000 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:49:38 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Let them pay the R & D in Europe. If it becomes cost effecive we can begin production here.
slowpoke63 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:2,817 Points:903,890 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:49:33 PM Ignore slowpoke63 Report Abuse Good
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,992 Points:440,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:47:12 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Why would they want to produce synthetic natural gas? An internal combustion engine can just as easily burn hydrogen in the engine as burn CNG.
Trowinsamoan Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,304 Points:214,520 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:47:10 PM Ignore Trowinsamoan Report Abuse Good for them the U S should have done this years ago
Cruiser340 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:12,897 Points:2,821,440 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:45:37 PM Ignore Cruiser340 Report Abuse They need to keep costs to us down or it'll flop just like the electric cars.
Mr_Bill_W All-Star Author Virginia Posts:586 Points:379,710 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:32:33 PM Ignore Mr_Bill_W Report Abuse Interesting... Have to wonder if this foreshadows development on this side of the Atlantic as well?
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:32:11 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse way ahead of gm
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Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,548 Points:2,934,510 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:29:38 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse Don't care about Audi nor do I care about hydrogen or natural gas. I produce enough of it after eating potatoe salad and chili
whaboush Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,233 Points:751,660 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:29:15 PM Ignore whaboush Report Abuse Almost time for an Audi A4, huh!?
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PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,170 Points:1,663,360 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:20:53 PM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse All this money being spent to develop expensive niche cars.
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