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U.S. deserves candor, transparency from refineries

GasBuddy Blog -- In GasBuddy’s ‘2012: Year in Review’ we noted that virtually all of the retail gasoline price volatility that Americans experienced this past year was connected to significant problems at refineries.

It was those refineries’ vulnerability that subjected U.S. consumers to the year’s highest average price ever, $3.63 per gallon.

February delivered the BP refinery fire in Cherry Point, WA and that led to gasoline price spikes all along the Pacific coast.
The spring of 2012 brought refinery problems in the Great Lakes region that pushed Chicago gas prices to an all-time high of $4.56 per gallon. Should we expect more transparency from refineries than they ordinarily demonstrate?

Over the summer, West...


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 5:55:01 AM

Pig Oil + transparency = paradoxical oxymoronic truth?
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coyotegirl1
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 1:27:33 AM

I'm so relieved to see that so far, our gas price's have remained stable in Illinois.

Since Los Angelos gas prices went at an average of $4.72 a gallon last October, I don't know how they are able to tolerate this?

I guess that they have no choice but to pay for what they need.
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goldrose1
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 9:15:37 PM

If oil company has disruption to it's production tell news outlets. Have a plan so customers aren't impacted more than necessary.
Business do your job. Tell the public directly.

Fewer people involved, less taxpayer supported news people.
Why does the government have to control our news?

It's different issue that involved agencies need to be informed for cleanups, etc. Skip this drama!
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mswillia
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 3:57:39 PM

supply and demand. If there is demand, they will supply.
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Bigtex09
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:32:26 PM

no transparency in this administration
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tomok
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:15:01 PM

U.S. deserves candor, transparency from refineries and Big Oil/Gas! The refineries continue to produce fuel when they are 'shut down,' on a maintenance upgrade or for any number of other reasons. Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! The price at the pump needs to go down to $2/gallon - *$3, *$3.50/gallon or *$4.00 is Not the new low!
More Refineries are Not the answer, the answer is Stop Exporting Fuel! Take care of the domestic market first!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
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ssect8
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:11:30 PM

There is too much government regulation as it is, we need less NOT more.
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getalong
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:41:34 AM

Wz are you trying to say the Obama administrations is the only party that hides anything? Are you guys plain crazy or do you think we don't pay attention to the news? Geeze get your head out of your elephants donkey!
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Costello
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:39:04 AM

Need more refinery's!!!
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us30ride
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:37:45 AM

Like no one ever thought about that.
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Samo1961
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:31:43 AM

Did anyone confirm their stories?, oil companies are well known for their exaggerations.
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Tutootin
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:30:02 AM

Probably maintenance funds being redirected to profits.
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Billbop
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:27:49 AM

They've spent billions of profits in stock by backs, increasing the value of the stock since there is less out there for the consumer. Rather than upgrade their facilities they just spend millions buying nut bag politicians to tell us wind, solar, and electrification of cars are a bad thing to keep us on the oil addiction.
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OnEmptyMO
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:46 AM

And now that you mention it, prices are going up today in this area.
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indyjim
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:21 AM

Those were excuses to rationalize the gouging increase in pricing.
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briinnc
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:03 AM

Yes, would be nice across all sides of business (and Govt.).
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bearzz
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:02 AM

Uhhh . . . and we don't have new refineries because . . . government I believe.
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exd121
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:33 AM

prices are up here
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jcotaxi
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:16 AM

Maybe some day we'll get transparency from our government agencies?!?!?!
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UncaLar
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:12 AM

"significant problems at refineries"? Let's expand, shall we: significant problems at refineries with poor quality control and CEOs needing more cash in their pockets.
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prorodeo2012
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:24:12 AM

yes new refinaries
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RochBear
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:23:59 AM

and between the EPA and NIMBY, we haven't built any new refineries in Decades.
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msgt_usa
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:23:44 AM

A refinery can manufacture a problem in order to boost the price.
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rawdog1313
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:22:59 AM

Need new and refurbished refineries!
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karlet
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:22:18 AM

I know they are ot going to build new refineries, but can't they at least sink some money into these old ones to update them and maybe prevent some of these "accidents" from happening?
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:21:19 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:20:39 AM

OK.
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sleuth696
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:20:04 AM

The American people deserve candor, transparency from their government
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gasjockey70124
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:55 AM

Maybe the oil companies should channel some of their billions in profits to udating and enlarging the refineries.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:33 AM

As they say Whatever
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:11 AM

Excuses
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:18:52 AM

RefineryS are a dangerous place to work.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:17:27 AM

yawn..
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gasman50
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:16:11 AM

Refineries have more than enough regulations now.........
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Car54BC08
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:16:10 AM

Only if we could have transparency of the politicians first.
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Kleen Kar
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:13:14 AM

Ya, good luck with that!!!
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spmaudio
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:13:04 AM

From reading the first three paragraphs of this article, I'd say we need refineries that can break their nasty habits of having accidents and disasters!
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wz
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:12:28 AM

With a hostile press - looking for any news to make oil companies look bad, there is little wonder why they are reluctant to be forthcoming. Kind of like the Obama administration hiding their secrets before the election.
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TRAIN RIDER
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:11:23 AM

They are taking after the Obama administration, no transparency.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:11:15 AM

Need to enforce penalties if there isn't full disclosure... rules are in place, its enforcement that is needed.
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vwilsonskis
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:10:22 AM

yes they should let us know what is going on!
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:09:08 AM

ok
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JLSindy
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:08:17 AM

Transparency and candor from big oil - surely you jest!
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:07:36 AM

Supply and demand - their refinery goes down, their profits go up. . .
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rrs517
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:07:13 AM

Candor from the refineries? We treat refineries like the enemy. When was there a new refinery built? I believe some 25 30 years ago.
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Goatroper47
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:06:11 AM

Build more refineries! We have not built on in almost 40 years! Get the EPA and obummer off their backs!!!!
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kuma2000
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:52 AM

It all boils down to profits.
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packards42
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:29 AM

It almost limited capacity as the marginal refineries are shutdown to avoid massive environmental upgrades.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:20 AM

ok
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eagle_scout
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:00:13 AM

How about more refineries to demand transperency from? :D
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