benjy

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:13:31 AM
you need money to make money...
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rvn4me

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:13:19 AM
The US needs to do the same with all of the wind projects coming on line.
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impala2008

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:13:13 AM
Nothing to do with our gas prices.
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Dennisjk

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:11:13 AM
Most countries need to do that but don't have the money to invest right now.
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vizilo

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:08:52 AM
Time to conserve
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:08:44 AM
You have to grow or die!
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:07:06 AM
Well, here we go again.
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trojanbuck

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:04:29 AM
Ask Obama, he's got a limitless supply of cash for every purpose.
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:02:01 AM
Australia needs to invest at least A$100 billion ($92 billion) in electricity infrastructure in the next decade to meet growing demand by consumers, the Minister for Resources and Energy, Martin Ferguson, said.
Well join the group. Every one needs money..
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Helms

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:00:31 AM
who doesn't? (Need 92B in energy investment)
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matman01

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:00:30 AM
Maybe Obama will give them a bailout?
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ironbox_sara

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:59:49 AM
So what are they whining about?
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CharlieC08

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:59:34 AM
Same ole song.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:59:29 AM
oilrobber wrote:
>Australia, here is what you do. Make everyone buy health care.
Australia is a civilized nation. They already have universal health care and have for many years.
>And tax the hell out of everyone.
I'd be in a higher tax bracket in Australia but their system has universal health care. Also, unlike the US, the Australian tax system doesn't tax dividends twice.
There's also Australian superannuation ("super") on top of that. Super is akin to a US 401(k) but with mandatory contributions.
Australia has the advantage that their system results in considerably lower barriers to going from one job to another. (I had a former co-worker who worked on the Australian AWACS-type plane and he commented the natives would quit at the drop of a hat between universal health care and super.)
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:58:00 AM
Wind and solar is probably their best bet.
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Baron62nd

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:57:50 AM
I'll bet they can do this without our current administration borrowing money from China to pay it.
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PrepHermit

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:56:13 AM
That's a lot of dollars down under.
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:56:10 AM
That is a lot of mulah.
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Zinnoil

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:55:33 AM
The rest of the world is investing in energy whilst we chat about wind, solar and other economically unproven ideas.
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hauler43

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:55:23 AM
Solar and wind
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:54:55 AM
Go to alternative sources.
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Zygnatz

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:52:16 AM
There should be a great opportunity for solar/wind power down there.
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woodeye55

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Gary
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:50:32 AM
Sounds like Martin woke up just yesterday!
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kriketgirl

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:50:18 AM
Don't we all... Everything is getting older and demand is always rising.
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batloverNM

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:49:29 AM
Solar and wind!
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w4kh

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:49:28 AM
As a net exporter of so many raw materials in demand around the globe, Australia is in a unique position, and the investment in electrical energy infrastructure, while huge (A$100 Billion), will likely pay for itself as rapidly as the investment is made...
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DrCashFlow

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:47:29 AM
resource rich. if they can hammer out internal priorities, they can afford it.
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Tundralimited2009

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:47:22 AM
China get the majority of these shipments.....
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Hangnail309

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:46:05 AM
They should have thought of this years ago.
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turbodog

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:45:47 AM
Solar and wind.
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Gas_Buzzer

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:45:29 AM
Maybe Congress and Obammie can give it to them...why not?
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kruk

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London
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:45:25 AM
seems for projects like that they look at taxpayers - not only apply for Australia, North America is notorious for that
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braves89

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:43:37 AM
sounds like they are still in better shape than us
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jmg144

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:42:09 AM
China will make even more investments
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fordfan1

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:41:20 AM
It looks like a tax hike to me. At least that is what our Government would do right now!
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:39:56 AM
Big $$$ for a small ecomony, but keeping there mining industry in power is a must for it the drive.
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:39:33 AM
The solution is to put a big tax on electric usage to get the needed money. When you find out that the high taxes have eliminated the extra demand, scrap the infrastructure expansion and use the money to buy votes by giving the money to "needy" people that can vote - for you. You can apply these schemes to other areas of the economy. Of course, over time you will destroy the country but, as John Maynard Keynes said: "In the long run, we are all dead!"
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DieselKat

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:39:25 AM
They should have thought of this years ago.
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mazdaboy

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:38:47 AM
This could happen to us if we don't invest now.
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smokefan64

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:38:24 AM
Go Check Them out!
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:37:55 AM
we all need this with the push for electric cars
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Zuman

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:36:09 AM
Who will invest in our energy needs??????????????
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:35:35 AM
For too long govt ignores problems till they become crisis.
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throttle

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:34:46 AM
The U.S. also needs a huge investment in energy infrastructure.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:33:11 AM
mvosevich wrote:
>"retail price regulation", now there's a novel concept.
Missouri has retail price regulation. Texas doesn't.
My cousin who works for KCP&L was commenting during our 4th of July weekend that the company has rate increases stacked up in Jefferson City.
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:31:59 AM
Good luck to Austrailians, but I don't see where this affects the price in North America
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Hunter114

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:29:17 AM
As long as they do it with minimal government involvement, they should be fine.
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spunky4443

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:27:11 AM
That's their problem, we have our own.
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threewheeler

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:26:13 AM
Sounds like they will get it done.
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oilrobber

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:24:58 AM
Australia, here is what you do. Make everyone buy health care. Make up your own cap and trade. Have you EPA fine you for Co-2. And tax the hell out of everyone. That way no one will have money for energy and you won't need it. Problem solved! We can sell you a President if you need more help!
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copperhead8

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:24:04 AM
Good luck to Australia.
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