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Report says China is squeezing U.S. firms out of its massive

Dallas News -- WASHINGTON – U.S. companies are getting squeezed out of the big Chinese wind-power market even as Dallas investors are bringing Chinese firms here via a big wind farm in Texas, according to a new industry report.

"They've used every measure you could possibly think of to enhance production of renewable energy equipment in China," said report author Alan Wolff of the trade law firm Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP.

U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk won a pledge from the Chinese last fall to drop rules giving preference to Chinese makers of wind-power equipment. But Kirk's office hasn't seen any evidence that the pledge has been carried out, said spokeswoman Carol Guthrie.

Meanwhile, Chinese manufacturers are entering the U.S. wind market under a joint venture led by Dallas investor Cappy McGarr.

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ljmatney Champion Author Wichita Posts:4,024 Points:565,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:39:07 AM Ignore ljmatney Report Abuse Be responsible and buy American. Read the labels of what ever you buy. We need to save our own jobs.
NashGas All-Star Author Nashville Posts:654 Points:140,730 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:37:58 AM Ignore NashGas Report Abuse that's China.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,800 Points:439,045 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:37:52 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse impala2008 from Ontario... No this article does not have anything to do with gas prices. If you really believe that the articles is not appropriate and are not just posting for points, I would strongly suggest you read the submission guidelines. Let me turn your attention to those guidelines, "Articles should be on the topics of gas prices, crude oil, clean energy, fuel efficient vehicles or related automotive articles". Now if you still believe that this article on Wind farms is NOT "clean energy" ...then you would logically want to turn it in to the Mods and perhaps make a fool of yourself by doing so. Did you read the article?
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:5,190 Points:1,766,270 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:36:00 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse Making a deal with the Chinese is making no deal at all. The only way to deal with them is to have a net neutral trade agreement. This type of agreement would require that no Chinese goods would be allowed in the USA until the Chinese have received and paid for the same monetary value of goods from the USA. Good luck!
Beboper Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,772 Points:1,186,410 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:35:08 AM Ignore Beboper Report Abuse Just read the story and who are we talking about
03mdx Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,965 Points:626,735 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:35:07 AM Ignore 03mdx Report Abuse China does what is best for them, and I don't think that is a bad thing.
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,620 Points:325,425 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:34:29 AM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse The Chinese government will always have foreign policies that restrict the development of trade by other foreign companies within their borders. That is just the nature of their culture.
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,534 Points:631,605 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:29:40 AM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse Another poster writes: We need a President and Congress that will stand up for America instead of every other country. _____ Just what does this mean? All I can see here is someone is out of touch.
Italianman All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:956 Points:321,175 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:29:16 AM Ignore Italianman Report Abuse What are we waiting for?
zimowski Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,805 Points:624,855 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:28:25 AM Ignore zimowski Report Abuse Did anyone really expect the Chinese to honor their side of the agreement?
pricechecker08 Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,087 Points:834,215 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:26:50 AM Ignore pricechecker08 Report Abuse Are we such a bad shape we can,t do are own, instead of giving a foreign country our money to do what we should be doing our self.
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:4,372 Points:312,025 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:24:04 AM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse Are there no US citizens with a great mind to develope this technology
UMassLowell Veteran Author Dayton Posts:425 Points:216,570 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:23:51 AM Ignore UMassLowell Report Abuse There will be a turn-around.
raleightom All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:765 Points:215,710 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:23:41 AM Ignore raleightom Report Abuse "They introduced a bill this month that would halt federal funding of renewable energy projects until "buy American" requirements are written into law." What happened to globalization and fair competition ? I feel we are being a good bit hypocritical here. The Chinese are better at manufacturing at a lower cost than we are and always have been. I think the real argument to be made, if any at all, is in the area of Human Rights in China. Are we certain those are still being violated ;)
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,534 Points:631,605 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:22:42 AM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse GSHARPGUY writes: I already knew that the Obama administration favored Communists and Socialist countries. This is not a surprise. _____ What third grade level drivel! Perhaps you might enlighten us with some concrete example?
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,888 Points:1,491,715 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:21:51 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse Have you been living under a rock? Communism is no longer in existence except in Cuba.
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:4,564 Points:926,635 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:18:04 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse I already knew that the Obama administration favored Communists and Socialist countries. This is not a surprise.
jimshell Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,830 Points:464,295 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:17:29 AM Ignore jimshell Report Abuse We need a President and Congress that will stand up for America instead of every other country.
rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:1,872 Points:554,535 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:15:17 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse Other countries just want our money. When it dries up they will wish they had played ball a little better.
benjy Champion Author Chicago Posts:4,831 Points:894,870 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:14:58 AM Ignore benjy Report Abuse Not really Zonk. who do you think is behind the Chinese Companys?
impala2008 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:594 Points:214,030 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:14:18 AM Ignore impala2008 Report Abuse Nothing to do with gas prices.
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,587 Points:1,150,820 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:12:12 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse The Chinese don't have obama to mess things up.
vizilo Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,941 Points:1,836,595 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:10:06 AM Ignore vizilo Report Abuse It's called free enterprise
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:4,045 Points:1,192,990 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:09:53 AM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse They own a good bit of it Don20!
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,604 Points:1,036,515 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:09:30 AM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse You may as well get used to the fact that the US is not important any longer as far as a financial world power. Washington is spending too much money making the dollar worth crap. How's that change working for you?
9C1 Champion Author Chicago Posts:17,694 Points:3,279,670 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:08:40 AM Ignore 9C1 Report Abuse More of the same.
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,745 Points:1,647,825 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:04:48 AM Ignore Don20 Report Abuse U.S. companies are getting squeezed out of the big Chinese wind-power market even as Dallas investors are bringing Chinese firms here via a big wind farm in Texas, according to a new industry report. Its time to kick their BUTT out of the U.S. then
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,185 Points:1,014,395 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:03:21 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse More garbage from China. When will Americans learn not to buy items from China?
Helms Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:4,249 Points:1,226,775 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:02:16 AM Ignore Helms Report Abuse Seems the world has an (anti-US) agenda....Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela...remember that you liberal dogs who think the eurotrash way is better.....they've kicked us out too after bringing us in to straighten out their messes.....
trojanbuck Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,880 Points:795,715 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:01:07 AM Ignore trojanbuck Report Abuse And this is a surprise how?
EXTREMESNOW Champion Author Medford Posts:4,522 Points:951,785 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:00:33 AM Ignore EXTREMESNOW Report Abuse Seems the Chinese have an agenda.
CharlieC08 Champion Author Colorado Posts:3,822 Points:650,270 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:00:32 AM Ignore CharlieC08 Report Abuse China never did want us. Just our money
FPLREP Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,368 Points:1,499,895 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 10:00:14 AM Ignore FPLREP Report Abuse Is anyone really surprised by these actions? The government of China is communist.
hauler43 Champion Author Oakland Posts:4,824 Points:1,856,555 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:59:09 AM Ignore hauler43 Report Abuse It is all about the costs.
Baron62nd Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,547 Points:759,600 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:58:40 AM Ignore Baron62nd Report Abuse Duh!
Hydroid Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,059 Points:602,445 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:57:58 AM Ignore Hydroid Report Abuse We experienced something similar with in soft wood trade, poatoe exports, pork etc. etc. but that was all done under a legal agreement called the North America Free Trade agreement. The World Trade council ruled against the US in every situation, but they continued with protectionist taxes, trade, and practices anyway.
doncNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,775 Points:564,945 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:57:04 AM Ignore doncNJ Report Abuse The Chinese are more cometitive price wise than we are.
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,275 Points:676,480 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:56:57 AM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse China will take over the world in due time.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:5,346 Points:1,674,345 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:56:45 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse that is because we have such SMART CEOs & top Execs. Why wlse would they get the BIG bucs?
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,737 Points:1,052,440 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:55:47 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse The U.S. should start a retalliatory wind war.
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:6,871 Points:1,277,495 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:55:31 AM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse Right now the Chinese hold all the cards... their economy is booming, their wind and solar energy businesses are producing high quality low cost equipment and all the US can do is whine about being squeezed out of the Chinese market... Produce a better product at a better price and let economics play a part - the Chinese are just a greedy for profit as anyone, and the US firms "simply" have to address cost and quality...
Tundralimited2009 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,577 Points:518,500 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:55:24 AM Ignore Tundralimited2009 Report Abuse When has this worked?
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:3,927 Points:818,555 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:54:17 AM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse Today's market is not your father's marketplace. Until, and unless we impose the SAME requirements that are placed on us from Foreign countries, we will no longer be in the same position of respect we once were. Each country that imposes import or other taxes upon good made in America, should have the EXACT SAME taxes and costs imposed on them and ALL PRODUCTS from that country. In this way, ONLY, we can achieve parity.
kriketgirl Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:104 Points:337,125 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:53:30 AM Ignore kriketgirl Report Abuse We allow it then we are surprised when it happens!
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,455 Points:696,370 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:50:03 AM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse with each passing week, the stark differences between being a creditor nation with specific policy objectives, and a mega debtor nation with controversial policies becomes more apparent.
kruk Champion Author London Posts:2,843 Points:332,715 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:48:27 AM Ignore kruk Report Abuse if americans are stupid and transfer all manufacturing to China themselves why they complain now - that Chinese have vision and are smart - too late
Hangnail309 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,434 Points:759,640 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:47:16 AM Ignore Hangnail309 Report Abuse no surprises here ...
Gas_Buzzer Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,488 Points:1,704,035 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:47:14 AM Ignore Gas_Buzzer Report Abuse Maybe we should try the 1st one in Washington. Seems there is a lot of hot air there that is constantly being blown around by 535 jerks, well add 2 more from the White House.
braves89 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,760 Points:658,395 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:45:44 AM Ignore braves89 Report Abuse thats because us companies don't bribe the politicians enough
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:3,022 Points:1,136,250 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:44:41 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse China's business practices suck.
Tundralimited2009 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,577 Points:518,500 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 9:44:35 AM Ignore Tundralimited2009 Report Abuse China is a leader in this area........