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Driller to NY: Stop the local bans or we'll sue

Yahoo Finance -- Gas driller threatens to sue NY if state agency doesn't act to stop local bans and moratoriumsALBANY,

N.Y. (AP) -- A natural gas drilling company is taking a new tack in the industry's fight against local drilling bans: It's threatening to sue if New York regulators don't step in and extinguish the prohibitions.

John Holko, president of Lenape Resources, sent a letter Thursday to state Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Joe Martens saying a moratorium prohibiting natural gas development in the Livingston County town of Avon forced his company to shut down its wells there.

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Submitted Aug 01, 2012 By: leemun

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REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,430 Points:2,006,270 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 1:01:48 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Yep, things are a little insane in NY.
SalukiCO Sophomore Author Colorado Springs Posts:199 Points:242,545 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 1:01:40 AM Ignore SalukiCO Report Abuse Screw the driller, they have no problem screwing you.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,244 Points:2,253,045 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:59:19 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse this is funny..but i'm afraid the worst is yet to come.. most cities do have a one mile extra-territorial jurisdiction though, and some towns, like the one i live in, has a two mile jurisdiction.. DHAN.. [Edited by: 10k at 8/1/2012 1:01:40 AM EST]
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,416 Points:1,095,220 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:58:34 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse You cannot have one set of rules in one town and 25 feet away, another set. That makes no sense at all and NY knows it.
eightiesgod Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,375 Points:1,231,885 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:58:13 AM Ignore eightiesgod Report Abuse ah
wildredbill Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:3,907 Points:564,115 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:57:46 AM Ignore wildredbill Report Abuse Local control should trump drilling.
Road-Runner Champion Author Denver Posts:7,046 Points:1,905,165 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:57:39 AM Ignore Road-Runner Report Abuse And so here comes a galloping herd of LAWYERS!
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,984 Points:1,111,375 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:56:23 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Money talks BS walks...
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,645 Points:1,211,005 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:54:47 AM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Big guy pushing the locals????
wz Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,484 Points:1,276,340 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:53:57 AM Ignore wz Report Abuse In general, property use decisions should be made at the lowest level of government that has jurisdiction - property owners and municipalities can overrule state regulations. But since activity must obey rules at all levels of government, it works out that the most restrictive regulations take precedence. Gas companies will have to go outside the city limits to do their drilling. Cities have no authority to control activity beyond their borders.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,919,005 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:53:20 AM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse You got to have regulations!
RAC110 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,949 Points:1,851,545 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:52:31 AM Ignore RAC110 Report Abuse surprise is everyone should know big companies do what they want and they stomp on little who get in their way and they tell elected people what to do
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,741 Points:1,975,675 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:52:11 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Straighten them out John. The DEC wackos are at it as usual.
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:2,265,640 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:51:12 AM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse not surprising
sdchris Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,546 Points:735,900 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:50:42 AM Ignore sdchris Report Abuse Oh really?
yakstar Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,415 Points:478,670 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:50:13 AM Ignore yakstar Report Abuse unreal!
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,468 Points:1,742,745 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:46:23 AM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse So Big Oil actually does own state government?
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Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,937 Points:2,076,960 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:41:24 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Its about time to sue for this foolishness.
Vetteblu Champion Author Denver Posts:2,665 Points:778,870 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:41:15 AM Ignore Vetteblu Report Abuse Hmmmm....
mfritter Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:9,500 Points:2,565,175 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:41:14 AM Ignore mfritter Report Abuse What is wrong with this picture? Should the government maybe be controlling the drillers, rather than the drillers controlling the government?
Cheney Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,022 Points:2,534,310 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:40:29 AM Ignore Cheney Report Abuse yeah, go after them!
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,984 Points:1,238,810 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:39:29 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Good sue all those jerks in Albany. Our government has become our own worst enermy. [Edited by: BobD2009 at 8/1/2012 12:40:52 AM EST]
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,772 Points:721,425 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:39:12 AM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse more useless litigation, sue everyone!
emcGas All-Star Author College Station Posts:881 Points:256,815 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:39:12 AM Ignore emcGas Report Abuse ok
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:555,480 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:38:56 AM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse That will be interesting
captain013 Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,009 Points:457,680 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:37:29 AM Ignore captain013 Report Abuse Sue me. No sue you.
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jim27106 All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:770 Points:781,235 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:35:13 AM Ignore jim27106 Report Abuse Don't banning fracking. Just require the companies to post insurance bonds. I can't drive without insurance because I might cause an accident. Although the chance of me causing an accident is higher than the 1% chance of a fracking accident the potential damage is less. So, require the drillers to post a bond wherein they have to buy the properties, at full market value, plus interest and legal fees if they delay settling, if they contaminate the water. Pass a law requiring all trucks to disclose what chemicals they are carrying within your municipality. Have a $10,000 fine for anyone who doesn't comply. Seize the truck.
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:310,070 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:34:07 AM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse Money fighting money ... only the lawyers win ...
craigsf38 Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,708 Points:1,509,280 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:33:45 AM Ignore craigsf38 Report Abuse We are a fracking suing culture and that sucks
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,007 Points:2,469,720 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:33:14 AM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Guess that's what it'll take
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,749 Points:2,464,855 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:33:14 AM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Lawyers are employed at least.
PettyEddie2012 Champion Author New York City Posts:1,739 Points:348,390 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:30:19 AM Ignore PettyEddie2012 Report Abuse I WANT TO SUE PEOPLE FOR SUING TOO MUCH
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visitor_2 Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,652 Points:1,635,530 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:26:23 AM Ignore visitor_2 Report Abuse you can sue for anything - good reason for tort reform
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Somis1 Champion Author Ventura Posts:13,677 Points:2,613,800 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:23:41 AM Ignore Somis1 Report Abuse Good for them.
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,294 Points:1,641,830 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:20:40 AM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse They should....
silverfox63 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,115 Points:1,610,740 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:20:19 AM Ignore silverfox63 Report Abuse Companies are getting tired of all these bans by local communities regardless of their gripe. I would sue also.
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,181 Points:518,480 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 12:19:41 AM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse agreed
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