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Fugitive Methane Caught in the Act of Raising GHG

Forbes -- It turns out that greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are much higher from using natural gas to produce electricity than from using coal. So much for the myth that replacing coal with gas will help stave off global warming.

The culprit of these GHG emissions is fugitive emissions of methane. Since methane is a far more potent GHG than CO2, this is bad. Fugitive losses include loss of methane from the well-head during flow-back return of the fluids, during drill-out following fracturing and during well-venting, plus losses from equipment leaks, losses during transport, storage, and distribution, processing losses and losses during liquid unloading. (Is methane coming out of your faucet fugitive?)

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Submitted Jul 16, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 10:58:00 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse Every act said to help stave off global warning is mythological. Global warming is natural, cyclical and unstoppable, puny humans.
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