Martinman
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2009 9:56:39 PM
But the real trick the article fails to mention, was their being able to get the birds to agree to migrate earlier each year, the trees to bud earlier each spring, the flowers to bloom earlier each year, etc. Apparently, the UGW (United Greeny Workers) extracted considerable consessons, including a few having sold their souls. The conspiracy was so well organized, that the CIA didn't even figure it out despite the extensive work required to get the Cherry blossoms to bloom before the Annual Cherry Festival in Washington D.C.
I'm sure there are a few ethically-challenged individuals on BOTH sides of this argument that have played their data. And even IF some doctored data (the above article ONLY cites "... and disparaged climate-change skeptics), I mean, it's not as if a former President was overheard calling a reporter a "what an ass", or a former Vice President dropping an "F-bomb" directly at a member of a member of Congress...
There is absolutely nothing to prove that data were actually changed, to alter study results. "What if-ing" is a common method of using existing data in building scientific models.
Sorry, but this is going beyond "turning a mole-hill into a mountain". It looks like they're trying to turn a pimple into Mount Everest.
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TheBruce2009
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2009 8:38:23 AM
The MSNBC copy is no longer available. You need a Washington Post login to read it now.
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ENORMS
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2009 7:07:11 AM
And the winner is....?
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dslxcur
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2009 4:44:54 AM
Dang! ...........................................
Think Al Gore is having his Laughs!.............................
Not Many Dare Go On Air That Pokes Fun On What Made News!.................
Saturday Night Live was Al Gore's Humor Appearance!.....................
That was a laugh!
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geminijax
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2009 3:15:14 AM
JCS319, Al Gore's a hypocrite, pure and simple. He's been fearmongering about global warming, while making millions trading carbon credits and contributing far more than the average Joe does to pollution. Yet, Dembots who have apparently been relieved of any thinking ability, continue to worship at his altar.
Re the FL election, Dems cried about it for years. Interestingly, no Dembot wanted to discuss the fact that Al Gore did not win his own home state of TN (something even Walter Mondale managed against the Reagan landslide). Had Gore won TN, FL would have been a moot point. No one has ever won the Presidency without winning his home state!
History WILL laugh derisively at those who fall for Gore's hypocrisy!
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NavyStore
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:47:08 PM
Man - so many of you are so dumb...
I'd like to thank those of you who wrote me about how right it was. Problem is - IT WAS SARCASM!! Maybe if you'd actually read it, you'd get it. Here, try it again. (Sigh... so much for Americas future.)
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Mermaids - Real (Though today we realize they really are Manatees)
Jersey Devil - Real (They are a hockey team after all)
Loch Ness Monster - Real (Ignore the evidence to the contrary)
1997 Florida Marlins - Real (Really EXPENSIVE)
Compasionate Conservative - Real (We only want to help you get to Heaven - fast!)
Global Climate Change - False (again, ignore all evidence to the contrary)
This message brought to you by the Republican National Committee. Remember, we are the only people God has chosen to love - everyone else will burn in hell with the liberals...
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comprof
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:55:34 PM
JCS319: Are you really that nieve???
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fizbos
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:53:59 PM
What a concept! Manipulating the data to validate the green agenda!
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comprof
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:48:50 PM
caddilac: you have tunnel vision if you can not see the relationship.
[Edited by: comprof at 11/21/2009 8:49:28 PM EST]
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:21:12 PM
I sense more dissension here than I need today; so may the most logical argument win.
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Kato51
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 6:25:31 PM
I don't buy into this global warming thing and what does it have to do with the price of gas?
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dbatw
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 6:21:59 PM
I predict every half wit denial freak out there will justify just about any nonsense he can imagine by citing the leaked email: Count on it. It's all a secret conspiracy of big brother who is watching your every move through the cable TV and cell phone you play with. And those bugs crawling up your walls are carrying tiny microphones to listen in on you and report directly to big brother.
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caddilac
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 6:14:41 PM
None of this explains anything about the recent rise in gasoline prices.
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evac93rd
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:50:36 PM
Where is the outrage against the unparalleled release of greenhouse gasses by bovines and volcanoes. I say every card-carrying environmentalist should support the following initiatives:
First, the immediate extermination of all deer, elk, moose and buffalo in the 50 states. Unlike our domesticated and regulated herds of cows, these dangerous, free and uncontrolled creatures are releasing tons of methane and CO2 into our atmosphere daily. Since they are beyond Government control, they MUST be stopped at all costs. While we're at it, let convert those pesky whale to dogfood. I'll bet each one farts even more than a moose!!!
Second, we should blockade the Hawaiian Islands and enforce a strict embargo of all products in and out of this traitorous state. How dare a putatively DEMOCRATIC state such as Hawaii, allow their volcanoes to belch out CO, CO2, Sulfur Dioxide and other noxious gases into the pristine Pacific skies. An immediate "Cap and Trade" of the Volcanoes National Park should be instituted. No,no,no...don't whine about feasibility, uselessness, cost or damage to the local and national economy. As our Ultra-green friends have reminded us so often, "When your mind is made up, don't try and confuse me with the facts."
[Edited by: evac93rd at 11/21/2009 5:51:27 PM EST]
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balljars
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:48:18 PM
Never did think much of this global warming crap.
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thirstyauto
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:46:09 PM
What's done is done!
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waynemustang
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:42:40 PM
Adds fuel to the truth. Climate Research Unit is proven to be a liar.
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dhnbBUG
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:38:41 PM
Hope they put the hackers away.
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Hamish2008
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:33:42 PM
Blaise Pascal, a French mathematician and philosopher living in the 17th century said that if we placed a bet there was a god, we would be better off even if it turned out there was no god.
Why? because we would live better lives and be happier. Then, if it turns out there is no god, we would still be ahead of those who didnit believe in a god.
And if there IS a god then believers would be much better off than the atheists because this god would reward them and the atheists would end up in Hell.
The belief in climate change seems to me to be like this.If I bet that climate change IS taking place and do my part to slow it down (if not halt it altogether) I make the world at least a little better for my childredn and grandchildren. Then, if climate change turns out to be a gross exaggeration,if not a lie, then at least I have done my part to make the world a bit better.
Then again, if the Chicken Littles are right...or at least partly right,then I am doing somethingin constructive and not sitting back and polluting the world and making it hotter and less liveable.
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mecforyou
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:30:26 PM
So we are taking the word if WHO!!!!! A hacker is this true or is it made up. remember this hacker is no where to be found, if he is he will be in prison.
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JCS319
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:24:31 PM
It always surprises me on how much the far-right hates Al Gore. Al Gore wasn't even president. Their man won on what easily could have been a rigged election in Florida (we'll never know) and still they hate him! Probably because history is more likely to smile on Al Gore than on former President Bush.
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915Chief
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:22:22 PM
If it was an honest exchange of ideas why didn't they make it public?
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moody4u
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:21:41 PM
I didn't need to read this to figure out there full of iT.
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rippinusoff
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:19:16 PM
so what
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Lizzylou
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:16:06 PM
I had a "HACKER" get into my e-mail address and e-mail my contacts to mail me $3,000.00 because I was stranded in Spain!! Thank God my friends had enough sense not to do it!!
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DavoIL
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:15:59 PM
wow! Climate debate and Al Gore responsible for loss of manufacturing jobs and political misdirection?? COME ON !!, Put the blame where it really belongs: Free trade and Reganomics!!!!
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mplato
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:13:59 PM
climate change....only in the minds of greenies.
oh and top climate change officials to meet next month say they have to admit it, cooling is taking place and has for over 10 YEARS of ALGORE's lying!
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PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:12:51 PM
If that is the only thing the hackers did, consider yourself lucky. These guys are so good they could look up your sisters dress as she sits at the keyboard chatting with her online friends. Many of whom are probably dirty old men pretending to be young girls or guys.
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Minster
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:09:18 PM
I am with Michalsz06 it is not caused by man.
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Number43
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:07:31 PM
I liked that JCUBE. J O B !!!!!
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JCUBE
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:04:52 PM
Did you say Gorebull Warming?
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Michaelsz06
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:03:07 PM
Tell me something I already didn't know. Global Warming is not caused by man it has cycles that are directly related to the Sun's energy output or Solar flares. During high Solar flare actively the earth warms and during low it cools and here is a link to a study that was done on this. It's a great Video.
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/SPPI8YR.jpg
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Number43
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 5:02:08 PM
How about the attempts within the science communities to silence those who disagree with the left wing nut cases. There was a serious effort several years ago to have local weathermen removed from their jobs who didn't support global warming. How wrong is that? And that was just the tip of a very large iceberg of abuse and intimidation.
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runinoutagas
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:56:47 PM
The ends of those who employ lies to achieve them are always evil.
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comprof
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:54:57 PM
I have been telling people for years that there was no real evidence for global warming and that it was political crap. What bothers me is that these people knew they were lying to us and have cost America hundreds of thousand of jobs, billions of dollars, political voting mis-direction, and destruction of many of our existing manufacturers. And of course, the main news media is letting it slide under their radar. All of these people, including Gore, should be prosecuted.
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Shadowwarrior
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:53:20 PM
Earth gets cooler, then warmer. It's Nature ! Man has very little to do with "Global Warming".Ok a little but nothing to do with it happening. Man may increase the effect by a few years but man is not the cause. Remember these are the people who said back in the 70's we where to be in a "Ice Age" by the year 2000.
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runinoutagas
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:49:38 PM
AnObserver (Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:36:58 PM): read down to the posts by “milespergallon” (Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:02:07 PM); and “CiVX” (Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:08:23 PM).
My post (Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:29:14 PM) was two entirely separate comments about those two posts.
[Edited by: runinoutagas at 11/21/2009 4:50:30 PM EST]
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AuburnTim
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:49:31 PM
ok
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Spetsnaz
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:49:03 PM
That is a big problem this society is forced to take a serious look at. Almost impossible to stop, unless serious scrutiny is forced on us a country.
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BobbyVA
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:48:24 PM
Gosh, Al Gore's personnel at work.
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Bruno44
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:48:21 PM
I agree with AnObserver.
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jwalkerh
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:47:35 PM
Whatever ever happened to honesty?
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fire@53
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:46:50 PM
I knew it was junk science, just another way to take money from us to make someone else rich ( Al Gore).
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NavyStore
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:45:17 PM
Mermaids - Real (Though today we realize they really are Manatees)
Jersey Devil - Real (They are a hockey team after all)
Loch Ness Monster - Real (Ignore the evidence to the contrary)
1997 Florida Marlins - Real (Really EXPENSIVE)
Compasionate Conservative - Real (We only want to help you get to Heaven - fast!)
Global Climate Change - False (again, ignore all evidence to the contrary)
This message brought to you by the Republican National Committee. Remember, we are the only people God has chosen to love - everyone else will burn in hell with the liberals...
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indyjim
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:44:41 PM
They must be Democrats.........the end justifies the means.
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MG_Sputnik
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:41:48 PM
Don't these people have better things to do with their time?
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Bubba44612
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:38:37 PM
Another Gore feast.
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AnObserver
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:36:58 PM
Runningoutagas
++ GOD-fearing men and women care about Truth, milespergallon; and since we are all in the same boat, if those who have not the Truth take 'er down — there'll be trouble all around.
It won't be the sky falling that sinks the ship — if she sinks — though: it will be the ignorant boring holes in that shield of Freedom, her hull. The ongoing “bailouts” are already of no avail; but once they drill enough more holes, her Constitution will be gone; and she and the souls aboard her — goners.
CiVX: “bovinians” — LOL ++
HUH?
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olcowboy14
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:36:32 PM
They were taken out of context alright. How can they predict global warming when most of the time they can't get tomorrow's weather right, and definately can't forecast a week in advance. I am with the geologists on this one.
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Minutefan
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 4:35:33 PM
private discussions made public...bad mojo
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